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   >>Using the hebrew/jewish discussion again:   
   >>   
   >>>>By the 1st century it had changed into the two place aftrlife; one for the   
   >>>>righteous and the other for the unrighteous afterlife. One was a place of   
   >>>>torment,ie. hell and the other,ie Abraham's bosom awaiting the   
   resurrection.   
   >>>   
   >>>The BIBLE (not most of the churches) teaches us that ALL the dead go   
   >>>to the same place to await a resurrection; both good and bad. (Acts 24:15)   
      
   And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there   
   shall be a resurrection of the   
      dead, both of the just and unjust.>   
   >   
   >>   
   >>Yup, a afterlife "place" of two divisions.   
   >>>   
   >>>the wicked.   
   >>>   
   >>>>in a place of contentment.  The two place doctrine is reflected in the last   
   >>>>two verses above.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>This is also reflected in the NT parable of the rich man and the begger.   
   >   
   >Like I said that you snipped out. Jesus was saying a parable. So what   
   >is a parable?   
   >   
   >"a short allegorical story designed to convey a truth or moral   
   >lesson." (The Random House College Dictionary)   
   >   
   >>>>Christ used the very common understtanding of the doctrine of the afterlife   
   >>>>of 1st century jews to make His point in the parable.   
   >>>   
   >   
   >So what was the 1st century Jews understanding of the afterlife?   
   >(right after dying)   
   >   
   >Lazarus had died. Jesus told Martha, his sister, that Lazarus will   
   >rise.   
      
   >There was no belief that he was now in Heaven, or that he was burning   
   >in a hellfire. No, the Jewish belief was that when people died both   
   >good and bad went to "sheol" (OT hell) or "hades" (NT hell), to await   
   >a resurrection of the good and bad. (Acts 24:15)   
      
   Yup; friend james just using other words confirmed the two place of the   
   afterlife awaiting resurrection and final judgement.>   
      
   >Thus IN THE BIBLE "hell" is the GRAVE, NOT a 'hellfire' place.   
   >   
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