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   From: usenet@christrose.news   
      
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   Wed, 31 Dec 2025 17:07:39 -0500   
      
   Watchtower Heretic James  wrote:   
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   > On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 18:27:24 +0000, jojo  wrote:   
   >   
   >> James wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 14:02:32 +0000, jojo  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Nomen Nescio wrote:   
   >>>>> and they have been partying hard in December   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> angels dont exist, fyi.   
   >>>   
   >>> Neither did the "God Particle" (Higgs Bosom) until 2012.   
   >>>   
   >>> "Bible-Reading Plans   
   >>>   
   >>> Whether you want a daily Bible-reading plan, a historical overview, or   
   >>> a plan for beginners, this schedule will help.   
   >>> Get Started".   
   >>> See jw.org (12/31/2025)   
   >>> James: zebrabible@proton.me   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> lol its NOT BOSOM!! higgs bosom would be a gay thing.. or trans   
   >> or whatever.   
   >   
   > Sorry about that. Spelling was not my best subject. Boson.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> anyway so about angels, could you give them a quick message to   
   >> contact me asap?   
   >   
   > You need a Ouija board to do that. Righteous angels no longer appear   
   > to humans. But they can influence us. But the wicked angels love to   
   > make fools out of humans. (like typing "m" instead of "n")   
      
      
   ...such as by promoting the gospel contradicting lies you promote, while   
   you pretend to be an angel of light.   
      
      
   > At any rate, what people call "ghosts" are really wicked angels   
   > pretending to be a person.   
      
      
   They don't pretend to be just any people. They pretend to be messengers   
   of light who promote the way of salvation. They call themselves   
   "Jehovah's Witnesses".   
      
         “And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine   
          the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted   
          mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are   
          false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as   
          apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises   
          himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his   
          servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of   
          righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.” (2   
          Corinthians 11:12–15, ESV)   
      
   That's the fate of every "Jehovah's Witness" unless God grants them   
   repentance.   
      
      
   > You see, the Bible says the dead are not   
   > conscious. (Jesus calls them "sleeping". (John 11:11))   
      
      
   Stupid, satanically manipulated liar. Nothing in the Old Testament   
   necessitates the dead are not conscious. You go there to twist and   
   deceive, because the revelation is less progressive and easier to   
   promote confusion with than the New Testament revelation.   
      
   You cite verses from the Old Testament which speak of people's earthly   
   existence "under the sun", and their earthly ambitions as perceived by   
   those who are still alive on earth, not passages which are designed to   
   show the theology of what actually happens to people's conscious souls   
   when they depart from the body. You promote intentional, calculated   
   confusion to support a network of gospel and Bible-contradicting lies of   
   Satan.   
      
   Nothing in the Bible necessitates a lack of consciousness or existence   
   upon physical death. Everything in the New Testament shows men's souls   
   are conscious and eternal.   
      
   Now watch the satanically manipulated liar try to fend off the truth by   
   labeling it "parable" or "symbolic", as if by simply saying those words,   
   he's developed some kind of solvent which will dissolve the truth and   
   somehow make the exact opposite become a reality. You try to do this in   
   a brain-washing fashion, because you know it directly refutes your   
   satanic lies. Even when the Bible uses parables, they NEVER point to the   
   OPPOSITE of what they indicate.   
      
   Luke 16:22–23   
      
         “The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s   
          side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being   
          in torment, he lifted up his eyes…” (Luke 16:22–23, ESV)   
      
   This does NOT teach that people cease to exist when their body dies. It   
   teaches they REMAIN conscious in either a state of torment or comfort.   
   Those who reject the gospel experience conscious torment. In no state of   
   DELUSION does a teaching which shows conscious existence and torment   
   AFTER physical death, indicate "cessation of existence". That is a   
   STUPID, bible-contradicting LIE of Satan!   
      
   Luke 16:25–26   
      
         “But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime   
          received your good things… Besides all this, between us and you   
          a great chasm has been fixed…’” (Luke 16:25–26, ESV)   
      
   Luke 23:43   
      
         “And he said to him, ‘Truly, I say to you, today you will be with   
          me in Paradise.’” (Luke 23:43, ESV)   
      
   The satanic, hypocritical LIAR looks at that, and says that what Jesus   
   actually meant to say was to inform him to the effect "today is the day   
   I'm telling you about your future condition". As if the man would not   
   realize that today was the day Jesus was informing him, so Jesus had to   
   remind him by using the word "today".   
      
   And the hypocrite elsewhere claims to operate by the principle that the   
   Bible interpretation can't be so obvious as to not need to be said. If   
   you propose an interpretation which is consistent with the obvious   
   statement, Watchtower James says it can't mean that, because it would be   
   too obvious. The person would not need to be informed of something so   
   obvious. Then, to deny the OBVIOUS indication of the statement (that   
   today is the day the man would be with Jesus in paradise), he claims it   
   MUST mean that Jesus was telling him "TODAY" is the day I'm telling you   
   about an [unspecified] time in the future. Stupid, hypocritical LIAR!   
      
   Matthew 10:28   
      
         “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the   
          soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in   
          [Gehenna].” (Matthew 10:28, ESV)   
      
   The body doesn't cease to exist when it is killed. It continues to exist   
   in a state of ruin, apart from the soul (life). Kill means separate the   
   person's body from its source of life (the soul). You kill the body by   
   separating the soul from the body. You kill the soul by separating it   
   from God. It does not cease to exist. It continues to exist in a state   
   of ruin, separated from the body (physical death) and separated from God   
   (spiritual death). That's why 2 Thessalonians 2 shows that those who   
   reject the gospel will be punished with everlasting destruction "away"   
   from the presence of God. "Destruction" means state of ruin, not   
      
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