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   From: Robert@none.non   
      
   On Apr 24, 2023, zebra2@windstream.net wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 00:16:22 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Apr 23, 2023, Michael McLean wrote   
   > > (in article ):   
   > >   
   > > > (1) How do you explain this?   
   > > > Michael McLean   
   > > > April 23, 2023 at 10:45:52 PM PDT   
   > > >   
   > > > On 24/04/2023 9:43 am, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:   
   > > > > How do you explain this?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Most churches say God is a Trinity. God the Father, God the Son, God   
   > > > > the Holy Spirit.   
   > > >   
   > > > There is only God; God and His Word which He put in the Son of Man, and   
   > > > in doing so, He placed Himself in the flesh. He is omnipotent, so not a   
   > > > problem to be in two places (two - or billions - focused presence-spots,   
   > > > if you like) when He is everything, everywhere, anyway.   
   > > >   
   > > > The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Who He is.   
   > > >   
   > > > There is no Holy Spirit 3rd God-head "sinner religious theology guy"   
   > > > running around. God is what He has always been right from the   
   beginning...   
   > >   
   > > You err greatly in this. Jesus, God, is seated in His throne at the right   
   > > hand   
   > > to the throne of the Heavenly Father.   
   >   
   > That's right, I never said he wasn't.   
      
   Pay close attention here, very, VERY, close.   
      
   I was not speaking to you. Please practice up on reading comprehension..   
   >   
   > >   
   > > 1Jn 1:1-4   
   > >   
   > > 1 We saw him with our very own eyes. We gazed upon him and heard him speak.   
   > > Our hands actually touched him, the one who was from the beginning, the   
   Living   
   > > Expression of God.   
   >   
   > Yes, Jesus had a BEGINNING, God did not.   
      
   As usual you put into the mouth of God words that he did not speak. You who   
   claim to use the proper Greek for proper understanding. You, who is not led by   
   the Holy Spirit, but that of the spirit of the anti-christ.   
      
   ἀρχή   
      
   archē   
      
   ar-khay'   
      
   From G756; (properly abstract) a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various   
   applications of order, time, place or rank): - beginning, corner, (at the, the)   
   first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule.   
      
   In other words he always was.   
      
   So stop demeaning the first born son of God, Jesus.   
      
   Jesus is and was God as these scriptures describe.   
      
   >   
   > >   
   > > 2 This Life-Giver was made visible and we have seen him. We testify to this   
   > > truth: the eternal Life-Giver lived face-to-face with the Father and has   
   now   
   > > dawned upon us.   
   >   
   > "face-to-face". Two individuals. God's Son, and God. But as I   
   > mentioned earlier, Jesus doesn't always know everything God knows,   
   > such as when the end will come: Mt 24:36.   
      
   I have explained that to you countless times. Yet you continue to lie about it.   
   Furthermore, The Work that Jesus did on earth was prescribed by His Father. He   
   spoke what was given to Him to Speak by His Heavenly Father. None of that,   
   absolutely NONE takes away from the fact that Jesus was one with the Father.   
      
   The Born Again Believer is One with Christ, and as Christ is, "so are we, in   
   this world".   
      
   That, my friend, is something that you cannot grasp as you have no knowledge of   
   it nor is it for you to have unless you are Born Again of God,   
      
   >   
   >   
   > God, even at times, chooses not to know certain things, such as the   
   > happenings going on in Sodom and Gomorrah. (Gen 18:20,21)   
      
   You speak out of the ignorance of this world.   
      
   “I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to   
   the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.” (Gen 18:21)   
      
   He heard, He came to verify first hand, Knowing what he was going to do,   
   Abraham was part of his reason for doing so. For Abrahams sake, Lot was spared.   
   (Reading comprehension?)   
      
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > 3 So we proclaim to you what we have seen and heard about this Life-Giver   
   so   
   > > that we may share and enjoy this life together. For truly our fellowship is   
   > > with the Father and with his Son, Jesus, the Anointed One.   
   >   
   > Father AND Son.Two individuals.   
      
   Yes, of Course, for a variety of reasons, none of which you are aware of,   
   though you have been told and shown many times via scripture.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > 4 We are writing these things to you because we want to release to you our   
   > > fullness of joy.   
   >   
   > I send the same to you.   
      
   Only Christ and those of His Body can do so.   
      
   Again, I will remind you that Jesus, and Jehovah of the OT are one and the   
   same.   
      
   You and those of your cult are false teachers, who follow the for of this   
   world, the evil one. Satan.   
      
   Even so, Jesus shed his blood for your sins so that you might have the freedom   
   to repent and follow him. It is up to you to accept Jesus as God, and believe   
   on Him that you might have eternal life. He is THE WAY, THE DOOR, and only by   
   Him can you come to the Heavenly Father. If you continue to deny Jesus as   
   Yahweh he will deny you before the Heavenly Father.   
      
   ““If anyone publicly acknowledges me as his friend, I will openly   
   acknowledge him as my friend before my Father in heaven. But if anyone publicly   
   denies me, I will openly deny him before my Father in heaven.” (Mat 10:32-33)   
      
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)