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   Robert to zebra2@windstream.net   
   Re: (3) How can you explain it?   
   26 Apr 23 11:35:17   
   
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   From: Robert@none.non   
      
   On Apr 26, 2023, zebra2@windstream.net wrote   
   (in article<6e8i4idkpn8bcj4dnmr7tv7qshthsqk7gc@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 21:14:54 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Apr 25, 2023, Michael McLean wrote   
   > > (in article ):   
   > >   
   > > > On 26/04/2023 8:54 am, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:   
   > > > > (3) How can you explain it?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > - American Standard   
   > > > > Exodus 33:11 And Jehovah spake unto Moses face to face, as a man   
   > > > > speaketh unto his friend...   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Yet the Bible says:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > -- New American Standard   
   > > > > Exodus 33:20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see   
   > > > > Me and live!"   
   > >   
   > > Exo 33:20   
   > >   
   > > 20 But you may not look directly at my face, for no one may see me and   
   > > live.”   
   > >   
   > > Paul, when he and his fellows saw Jesus on the road to Damascus did not see   
   > > him   
   > > directly other than as a brilliant, Jesus who is God not tempered by a   
   human   
   > > body was as he was when he spoke to Moses, He revealed himself to Moses in   
   a   
   > > fashion that was similar to when he was here on earth as a human. Likewise   
   > > when   
   > > he visited Abraham in the desert. But Moses desired to see him in ALL his   
   > > Glory, and Jehovah allowed that, but told him not to look upon His Face.   
   > > And so   
   > > as he passed by Moses, he put Moses in a cleft of a Rock so that Moses   
   could   
   > > see his back side. You can read all about it if you cared to know.   
   >   
   > Ex 33:11 is quite clear. He actually saw a face. But he didn't die   
   > right then, SO IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN GOD'S FACE THAT HE SAW.   
   > Then who's?   
      
   Exo 33:18-23   
      
   18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.   
      
   19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will   
   proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will   
   be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.   
      
   20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and   
   live.   
      
   21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon   
   a rock:   
      
   22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee   
   in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:   
      
   23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my   
   face shall not be seen.   
      
   Here, Behold the truth of God as quoted above.   
      
   To WHOM was Moses speaking to, face to face? The LORD.   
      
   In Verse 17 "And the LORD said unto Moses,"   
      
   >   
   >   
   > It was angels. The writer of Acts, the physician Luke, releases that   
   > gem to us at Acts 7:53:   
   >   
   > - Revised Standard   
   > Acts 7:53 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not   
   > keep it."   
   >   
   > (see also Gal 3:19)   
      
   The Law originated with the LORD, it was negotiated by Moses and the LORD, you   
   do not understand the scripture you quoted here. Many do not as they assume.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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