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   Re: (4) How can you explain this?   
   28 Apr 23 22:46:49   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
      
   >>Friend james tries another bite of the apple:   
   >>   
   >>>The churches teach us that all humans have an immortal soul. That when   
   >>>we die, the soul departs and goes to live somewhere else. The churches   
   >>>claim to represent God and the Bible. We have an IMMORTAL SOUL?   
   >>>So let's see:   
   >>>   
   >>>Ezekiel 18:4  Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as   
   >>>well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins shall die.   
   >>>   
   >>As before, the jw vatican has *no* scholars of greek/hebrew.  That leaves   
   >>them dependent on translation and the narrow meaning.  Some transla5ions   
   >>have "body/life" in place of "soul", what gives?  Eeasy, the hebrew easily   
   >>inclues a range of meaning that allows    for all above, from the verse in   
   >>question :   
   >>   
   >>nephesh (neh'-fesh)   
   >>   a breathing creature, i.e. animal of (abstractly) vitality; used very   
   >>widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental)   
   >>   
   >>Yes, God the Father or God the Son has "vitality",ie. a "soul".  Humans who   
   >>sin can have a loss of their "vitality", ie. a death of the body/"soul" as   
   >>the hebrew provides above.   
   >   
   >Again explain 'God the Son's'comment here:   
   >   
   >Matthew 24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the   
   >angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.   
      
   Hmmm, no mention of "soul", an irrelevant question to divert from the jw   
   vatican's lack of greek/hebrew scholars and the confusion it causes in   
   their pronouncements.   
      
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