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   From: none@none.con   
      
   On May 31, 2023, servant wrote   
   (in article<64776fec$0$2245$1c4686b2@news.club.cc.cmu.edu>):   
      
   >   
   > Friend james mindlessly parrots a jw vatican claim to cover failed   
   > predictions. These failures were dates for His physicall return.   
   >   
   > However they were drivento flip flop on the predictions, twice.   
   >   
   > They said around 1895 and once again in 1914 Christ had returned but   
   > invisible. The first claim was abandoned and more "physical" predictions   
   > followed, including 1914. Once again the "invisble" claim was   
   > "resurrected", so to speak to once again cover failed predictions.   
   >   
   > Here are two scripture bits friend james has offfered, not his but   
   > parroting the jw vatican excuses:   
   >   
   > > > Acts 1:9 And when he had said this, as they were looking on, he was   
   > > > lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.   
   >   
   > also:   
   >   
   > > 1 Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a   
   > > living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.   
   >   
   > Here is the excuse taken, nay poured into the above bits:   
   >   
   > When entering the cloud, He became invisible. Well duh, had He just turned   
   > a corner He would also now be "invisible" to observers, no? There is no   
   > reason to claim an "invisible" return.   
   >   
   > Described as a "spirit" He had to be "invisible", no?   
      
   No. You did not speak of to whom they were or were not visible. Creating your   
   own doctrines?   
   >   
   >   
   > Note, it is just as easily a statement of the godhead,ie. one God in 3   
   > ppersons, wait for it, including the Holy Spirit. Does scripture claim   
   > "spirits/ghosts" are invisible?   
      
   Have you any clue as to what parts of the Godhead are visible and to whom   
   were they visible, or not. You do a great job of muddying the waters.   
   >   
   > Consider also, the jw vatican claims Christ was but a recycled angel.   
   > Angles are depicted in scripture as visible bings, poof, so muchfor the   
   > "angel" theory.   
      
   There is no scriptural proof of what you claim, unless you cherry pick a   
   verse and ignore the totality of the Word of God.   
      
   2Ki 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that   
   he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and,   
   behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about   
   Elisha.   
      
   >   
   > Bottom line, seen in and of themselves no one would come away with the   
   > "invisble" theory imposed pon then, poured backward 2000 years to invent an   
   > excuse.   
      
   It appears to me that you are pouring a lot of dung in all your posts.   
      
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