XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: Robert@none.non   
      
   On Jun 14, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 08:28:20 +1000, Michael McLean   
   >   wrote:   
   >   
   > > On 25/04/2023 8:32 pm, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:   
   > > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 09:48:30 +1000, Michael McLean   
   > > >   wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On 25/04/2023 5:21 am, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:   
   > > > > > (2) How do you explain this?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The churches teach that when a person dies, he goes either to Heaven   
   > > > > > or Hell. (or Purgatory)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It varies widely, and then there are those who are not sure. Not that I   
   > > > > am guided by what the 'churches' say or do, thank God!   
   > > >   
   > > > Good for you.   
   > >   
   > > Ummmm, that includes you, Fella. :-). Your club is not perfect and   
   > > "better than most," in your opinion, does not fill the void.   
   >   
   > Then the Bible "does not fit the void", since the JW religion is based   
   > SOLEY on the Bible.   
      
   Why do you lie? I guess that is rather obvious, since you play follow the   
   religious leader.   
      
   Your own cult is now ultra wealthy, and your financial counselors reap millions   
   off their investments, right off the backs of those who are the conned ones.   
   LOL, yeah supposedly your leaders receive no financial support, yet they do.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > > > Thus they would expect that when Moses died, he went right to Heaven.   
   > > > > > And when Abraham died, he also went straight to Heaven. Etc, etc.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > BUT JESUS SAID NO!   
   > > > >   
   > > > > If the Lord did, then it is no.   
   > > >   
   > > > Always true.   
   > >   
   > > > -). As long as you interpret His words correctly.   
   > >   
   > > What way is that? Our trying to be perfect sinner church way. :-).   
   >   
   > The apostle Paul set the example. He REASONED on the Scriptures in his   
   > teaching works. (Acts 17:2,3)   
      
   Only to those that were willing to learn, he was, after all, speaking to the   
   Jews on three sabbath days. Explain to those who knew the scripture the   
   fulfillment of them to that point and time. The Greeks, a multitude of them,   
   followed Jesus because they saw the evidence of the power of God through signs,   
   miracles, and wonders, as God supported what they taught with such an emphasis.   
      
   You heathens cannot be reasoned with as you are not led by the spirit of God,   
   but by mortal dead man speaking. Your group is of the leading of the spirit of   
   the antichrist.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended from   
   > > > > > heaven, the Son of man.   
   > >   
   > > Michael wrote:   
   > > > > At that time, James. Does nothing change? If so, then no one is saved.   
   > >   
   > > James wrote:   
   > > > On the contrary, Jesus promised salvation:   
   > > >   
   > > > -- New King James   
   > > > Matthew 24:13 "But he who endures to the end shall be saved   
   > >   
   > > You have moved away the context.   
   > >   
   > > You didn't address the question.   
   > >   
   > > Does nothing change? Since John 3:13?   
   > >   
   > > You conveniently swept aside the bible verses I posted.   
   > >   
   > > So, if you are not going to even try to be sincere, James, I don't see   
   > > why I should bother.   
   >   
   > If that us how you interpret my comments, then it's better that you   
   > don't.   
      
   No interpretation of your comments are required. The scriptures themselves   
   oppose what you mouth.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > And what do we have to do to get it?   
   > >   
   > > > -- Living Bible   
   > > > 1 John 2:17 And this world is fading away, and these evil, forbidden   
   > > > things will go with it, but whoever keeps doing the will of God will   
   > > > live forever.   
   > >   
   > > You either do or you don't. There is no revolving door.   
   >   
   > Yes, just as Jesus said at Mt 24:13.   
   > >   
   > > As the Lord said...   
   > >   
   > > Luke 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and   
   > > whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.   
   > >   
   > > Remember, you said it, "Always true" or is it, as long as it doesn't   
   > > clash with our church theology?   
   >   
   > Church theology and the Bible, can be two different things. For   
   > example, how many churches were directly or indirectly involved in   
   > WW2?   
      
   What has that to do with anything, if is based on the self-righteous religious   
   training you receive and then practice.   
   >   
   > Yet their professed leader, Jesus, said this at Mt 5:44:   
   >   
   > -- Revised Standard   
   > Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those   
   > who persecute you,   
      
   Yes it does, but a foe of ones nation, is a foe of that nation. They are not   
   fighting a religious war unless they are of the likes of Islam. Who also has a   
   satanic leadership, like yours.   
   >   
   > Looks like the churches ripped that page out of their Bibles.   
      
   Looks like you cannot read with understanding. There is the word of God   
   speaking clearly about the spiritual enemies of God attacking those that   
   believe, Just as you have referred to in Acts 17 verse 5, etc. You twist and   
   dance the evil dance of deceit, half truths, distortions of truth just as your   
   spiritual father did in the Garden of Eden when he spoke to Eve. You are every   
   bit as gullible as she, and you relish it and are proud of it.   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)