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   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 18/06/2023 8:06 pm, James wrote:   
   > On Fri, 26 May 2023 09:14:44 +1000, Michael McLean   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 26/05/2023 2:36 am, James wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 23 May 2023 22:20:35 +1000, Michael McLean   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Michael wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> You stubborn sinful bastard, James.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> James wrote:   
   >>>>>>> And a good sunrise to you.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And may the bird of Paradise who was completely constipated, land on   
   >>>>>>> your head.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Michael wrote:   
   >>>>>> And fucketh thee too, your holiness.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> James wrote:   
   >>>>> Sorry for my nasty statement. I normally don't do that. Must have been   
   >>>>> too sensitive to your comment that day. I was in the Navy many moons   
   >>>>> ago, and picked up a lot of bad habits that still influence me. So   
   >>>>> again, sorry.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I never held it against you; it is not the problem.  Please take the   
   >>>> time to ponder what is said here, and not just jump to the JW religion   
   >>>> to try and defend your particular religious doctrines, like all the   
   >>>> others do.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't jump to the JW religion, I jump to the Bible. (practically the   
   >>> same thing though)   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This is not about religion, it is about God and you.   
   >>>   
   >>> If God is involved, it must be religion is also, since to me God is   
   >>> the purist of  religion.   
   >>   
   >> God is not a religion, He is a Person.   
   >   
   > Where God goes, a religion goes. I am just speaking metaphorically.   
      
   You are more than a religion.   
      
   And so it is with God.   
      
   He is a Person.   
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>> I know it seems impossible, but just pretend for a moment that in my   
   >>>> reply to you, God is trying to get something through to you.   
   >>>   
   >>> I always accept God's intervention.   
   >>   
   >> The sinner says.   
   >   
   > Yes, ALL humans sin.   
      
   Sin does not justify you.   
      
   God does not say you will remain in your sin.   
      
   Besides, if you can't even see this below, how can you see a greater   
   thing???   
      
   James wrote:   
    > I always accept God's intervention.   
      
   That is a lie from a liar, James, because you are a sinner.   
      
   You can't have it both ways, Buddy.   
      
   It reveals your religion: compromise.   
      
      
      
   >>>> What could that be?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Are you a sinner?  Indeed, does it really bother you all that much?   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, just like the Bible says ALL persons are. Jesus is the only human   
   >>> person that never sinned. (angels sent from God who manufactured human   
   >>> bodies don't count)   
   >>>   
   >>> Don't bother me that much since I usually don't purposely sin, and I   
   >>> know Jesus' ransom can forgive my, and all persons sins.   
   >>   
   >> It is NOT about sin (you).  It is NOT about what you have done, it is   
   >> about what you haven't done (Him).   
   >   
   > Specifics please.   
      
   Lose your life.   
      
   It has been said many times in many different ways.   
      
   Luk_17:33  Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and   
   whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.   
      
   Why would a person lose their life?  For a sinner's religion?  No, that   
   will never happen.   
      
   God is a Person and the only reason a person can lose their life is   
   solely because He is who He is, and it has nothing to do with sin.   
      
   It is a personal choice, that is all, a personal choice granted by the   
   grace and mercy of God.   
      
   Job.   
      
   Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine   
   eye seeth thee.   
   Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.   
      
   Job abhorred himself because it was obvious; he needed to repent because   
   it was obvious; he was a sinner because self was at his centre. He saw   
   who he was and made a personal, free choice.   
      
   Same as the thief on the cross next to Jesus.  He deserved to be   
   crucified because he was a sinner but made a personal free choice.   
      
   Abel did choose God, Cain didn't choose God.   
      
   Jacob did choose God, Esau didn't   
      
   And throughout history man has exercised his free personal choice.  All   
   were sinners, but only a few chose God.  And all those who chose God did   
   so for the same reason: He is who He is.   
      
   And so chose to lost their lives.   
      
   You as a sinner can call those all "continuing sinners" if you like, but   
   God calls them something entirely different.   
      
   Anyway, it is as it has always been: all or nothing with God. That has   
   nothing to do with saying, "Everyone is a sinner." Which is one   
   miserable, vomit-worthy excuse for a sinner to try to justify himself as   
   he is.  That is you, James. You should be ashamed of yourself.   
      
      
      
   >>>> You saying sorry about bird droppings is way too shallow and not what   
   >>>> the Lord is looking for from you.  Besides, do you really think, thus   
   >>>> far, your sinner state has been idyllically holy?  Come on!   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't think that at all. I just put myself in Jesus and God's hands   
   >>> and know they will do what is right. If I am to be saved, fantastic!   
   >>> If not, so be it.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Look at your comments again.  Are they of a self-righteous sinner in   
   >>>> spirit or a humbled man?  And what do you think the Lord is looking to   
   >>>> establish in you?   
   >>>   
   >>> Which Lord, the Lord Jesus, or the Lord God?   
      
   >>> In me? They want righteousness, which I try my best at. I feel a lot   
   >>> like the apostle Paul who said the bad is what he did.   
   >>> He couldn't stop it.   
   >>   
   >> And still you try to justify yourself in your sin!   
   >>   
   >> Unbelievable!   
   >   
   > Like the Bible says, all men sin. You need to seriously consider:   
      
   You can't hide the evil that you do in seeking to justify yourself in   
   your sin.   
      
   > 1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and   
   > the truth is not in us." (KJV)   
      
   That Bible verse pluck does not say to remain in your sin nor does it   
   justify you remaining in your sin, sinner.   
      
   What happens when the truth is in us - your way is that you simply go on   
   sinning.  You only see what you want to see, Buddy Sinner Religion.   
      
   You don't see the will and the power of God to cleanse of ALL   
   unrighteousness.  You don't see Him at all.   
      
   The only ALL you have is sin.   
      
      
   >>>> And if you get that far, are you really interested in the truth about   
   >>>> yourself, James?  You are always saying you are a sinner and everyone   
   >>>> else is a sinner, but when do you really dig in deep enough to find the   
   >>>> true nature of your sin?   
   >>>   
   >>> The true nature of my sin is imperfection. As the book of Job said,   
   >>> who can produce someone clean our of someone unclean.   
   >>   
      
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