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   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Jun 19, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<7te19idssrq70u441a82jpb10hn47kjpu2@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:56:25 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Jun 18, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On 10 May 2023 17:22:59 GMT, servant wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > > Friend james confirmed the "ever bright"er light of God's   
   revlation in   
   > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > cosmos as science evolve by mentioning: 1 Thessalonians 5:21   
   "Prove all   
   > > > > > > things; hold fast that which is good." Sadly this is not practiced   
   by jw   
   > > > > > > vatican followers.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Unlike many of the churches' doctrines, where the people just accept   
   > > > > > what they are told, JW's are encouraged to RESEARCH the Bible   
   > > > > > doctrines they are taught. Before the Internet, I used to go to the   
   > > > > > public Library to do religious research.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Correction, the jw vatican says members are not to even entertain   
   > > > > doctrines   
   > > > > not packaged for consumption. read on to see how this works.   
   > > >   
   > > > Whatever your source is, is lying to you. We can research what we   
   > > > want. I have been doing it for years.   
   > >   
   > > They cannot stop you, yet they will try. I have seen them do that in front   
   > > of   
   > > my eyes to their new followers.   
   > >   
   > > You will also be kicked out if you research and then teach on your research   
   > > when you follow your new understands to which they disagree.   
   >   
   > Sorry Charlie, but when I research any of their beliefs, they always   
   > turn out right.   
      
   Islamists say the same thing.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > For example, the JW's said that Easter was really a pagan   
   celebration.   
   > > > > > At the library I hit numerous encyclopedias on that subject.   
   > > > > > Afterwards, I was satisfied in my own mind, that the JW's were   
   totally   
   > > > > > correct.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Interpretation; the full discussion was not consulted, the abundant   
   info   
   > > > > refuting the supposed pagan origins was not consulted as it would   
   violate   
   > > > > nott looking at other vews outside the jw vatican spoonfed one. The jw   
   > > > > vatican readily offers sources for the pagan claimand they can be   
   found,   
   > > > > but that leaves one ignorant of the even more abundant info refuting   
   it.   
   > > >   
   > > > Pure nonsense. In my research on Easter, I ran across all kinds of   
   > > > articles supporting Easter. I just recently did a posting on Easter   
   > > > and its pagan celebrations.Chocolate bunnies, and painted colored   
   > > > eggs. What do they have to do with Jesus resurrection?   
   > > >   
   > > > Also, churches are mixed right in the pagan practices. Many of them   
   > > > have 'egg hunts' for children on church grounds. Introducing   
   > > > celebrations to children that God detests holds them accountable.   
   > >   
   > > Yes, that is correct in many religious organizations. Some to a lesser   
   > > degree   
   > > some to a major degree and that is because of their traditions of men. For   
   > > similar reasons there was a reformation that took place when many left the   
   > > decadent teachings of the RCC and the Orthodox. Yet some things were so   
   > > ingrained that their learned behaviors still and some practices still   
   > > continued on to this day even though it is to a much lesser degree in many   
   > > organizations.   
   > >   
   > > This is why a true believer should follow Jesus and walk in his steps, as   
   > > empowered by the Holy Spirit of God the Father.   
   > >   
   > > In fact that is the one glaring mistranslation of the KJV found in Acts   
   > > 12:4.   
   > > Which was a carry over of the RCC teachings.   
   >   
   > They also have hellfire wrong, the Trinity wrong, and ALL good persons   
   > goes to Heaven, wrong. You would be surprised what the Bible REALLY   
   > teaches.   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > I assume you like truth over lies. But I guess my assumption is   
   wrong.   
   > > > > > We are always encouraged to VERIFY our Bible doctrines. I challenge   
   > > > > > you to find ANY JW doctrine that violates the Holy Bible.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Bingo, they are told what they need to believe and what scripture bits   
   > > > > which contain the jw vatican's backward filling of those bits.   
   > > >   
   > > > I asked to prove it. Your opinion is not proof. Try again.   
   > >   
   > > She often accuses and needs to provide no proof, because she has her own   
   set   
   > > of dogma's that she must follow that are based on the traditions of men.   
   >   
   > False religions do that.   
      
   Yet you cannot see that.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > If they   
   > > > > look in scripture, by golly those bits are there so the jw vatican   
   theory   
   > > > > must be true, no? It is like the pagan claims being at a library, it   
   must   
   > > > > be true being ignorant of the full story not consulted at the library,   
   no?   
   > > >   
   > > > Need proof. Try again.   
   > > >   
   > > > > Another jw vatican doctrine says that one is to not to read any   
   scripture   
   > > > > not under the direct supervision of the jw vatican.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's ridiculous. Your opinion is noted again. Quote their literature   
   > > > to support your opinion. Still need proof. Try again.   
   > >   
   > > Funny, what she said is true of her Orthodox belief system. Although no   
   > > longer rigidly enforced they were supposed to only study the first four   
   > > Gospel, and then they were to be read in their bldgs on the altar with   
   their   
   > > priest at their side.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > They will tell you   
   > > > > what you are to know in scripture and exactly what it means and no   
   other   
   > > > > idea.   
   > > >   
   > > > And pigs can fly.PROVE YOUR ACCUSATIONS! If you can't, then you are   
   > > > being what the world calls, a blowhard!   
   > >   
   > > What she fails to understand, and is also a fact that you would now deny,   
   is   
   > > that was the way of the JW for years. Only recently has that been somewhat   
   > > dropped because of your "New Understandings" as your cult has had to change   
   > > some of their core beliefs, as the teachings of many Christian   
   organizations   
   > > from the Bible brought out and proved your lies so such an extent that many   
   > > have left your cult.   
   >   
   > Calling it a "cult" doesn't make it a cult. And it don't even fit the   
   > modern definition of a "cult".   
      
   At least not your current definition of it. That you have already explained.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > This truth can be found by comparing the red and the green books of old   
   > > against the current teachings of the JW, and the reasoning that you use   
   now,   
   > > is that a lie believed years ago was in fact the truth of that day. An   
   axiom   
   > > you still use today, personally, to excuse away the lies you consistently   
   > > use   
   > > when you are called on your lie regarding that you believe the whole Bible.   
   >   
      
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