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   On Jul 1, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 12:12:15 -0700, No one wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Jun 29, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article<1thr9i5g8i898e5cpavgn36egb073dah42@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:29:00 -0700, No one wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Jun 24, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article<6lud9it8ut8mv9ivkdrg31etf5903nomf4@4ax.com>):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 13:35:16 -0700, No one wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article<7f469id8qjme89uc4k9fvqboabr02vjt32@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 07:43:59 -0700, No one wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (in article<8as59itbdf4066oib6qu8tiv91etniusg8@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Blood transfusions. For Christians?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Blood transfusions. For Christians?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Of course, most would say. That is a ridiculous question. If   
   it will   
   > > > > > > > > > save a life, by all means, do it. But what if the Bible says   
   no. Do   
   > > > > > > > > > you obey God or men?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Believe it or not, the Egyptians did their form of blood   
   > > > > > > > > > transfusions.   
   > > > > > > > > > Thus the Jews (as slaves in Egypt) knew about such things.   
   Yet they   
   > > > > > > > > > allowed the wording to cover ANY kind dealing with blood.   
   Here is   
   > > > > > > > > > what   
   > > > > > > > > > the Bible says:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- New American Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > Acts 15:29 that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols   
   and from   
   > > > > > > > > > blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you   
   keep   
   > > > > > > > > > yourselves free from such things, you will do well.   
   Farewell."   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > To shorten it, it says:" ...abstain.. from blood..."   
   > > > > > > > > > But some may say, Acts 15:29 is talking about eating or   
   drinking   
   > > > > > > > > > blood. Or not draining the blood out of the   
   > > > > > > > > > meat of a fresh kill, like was mentioned in the OT.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Let's see what the Greek word for "abstain" means.Using   
   Strong's   
   > > > > > > > > > Concordance, it says:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "Strong's Ref. # 567   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Romanized apechomai   
   > > > > > > > > > Pronounced ap-ekh'-om-ahee   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > middle voice (reflexively) of GSN0568; to hold oneself off,   
   i.e.   
   > > > > > > > > > refrain:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > KJV--abstain."   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > The writer of Acts is the physician Luke. Being a doctor,   
   and full of   
   > > > > > > > > > Holy Spirit, he decided to use "abstain" instead of don't   
   eat or   
   > > > > > > > > > drink   
   > > > > > > > > > blood. And a transfusion can be thought of as 'eating'   
   blood. It is   
   > > > > > > > > > put into your body like an intravenously feeding does.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > And this is where you err. You assign illogical ideations to   
   eating.   
   > > > > > > > > So   
   > > > > > > > > when   
   > > > > > > > > you hypocrites accept the "eating" of hemoglobin or other   
   things into   
   > > > > > > > > you   
   > > > > > > > > blood system, you then contaminate your blood.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > When doctors intravenously feed a liquid nourishment to a   
   patient, it   
   > > > > > > > is referred to as "eating". Thus when a patient is unable to   
   swallow   
   > > > > > > > food (eat food), then they can feed him liquid nourishments into   
   his   
   > > > > > > > blood stream. He has eaten.all doctrines from the Bible. As 2nd   
   Tim   
   > > > > > > > says:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > What in the world do you know about Medical Doctors? Are you a   
   > > > > > > hypocrite?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > When they feed a patient through a tube in goes into their stomach.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Which then is broken down and ends up in the veins and arteries to   
   > > > > > feed the cells throughout the body. Thus a transfusing is EATING the   
   > > > > > blood. A direct violation against Acts 15:20.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > If that be the case, then the life blood of all fruits. Meats, Veggies,   
   > > > > also   
   > > > > enters your stomach and then into your veins, and so you MUST stop   
   > > > > ingesting   
   > > > > anything as all contaminates your blood system. Look at all the disease   
   > > > > one   
   > > > > gets that way, and not only that but the air you breath also   
   contaminates   
   > > > > your blood as you "eat" by your definition anything that ends up in   
   your   
   > > > > blood.   
   > > >   
   > > > A molecule of blood here and there does not violate Act 15:20   
   > >   
   > > Your poor attempt to belittle things and speak what is not there in the   
   > > Bible, does not prevent you from gettin those diseases, even if it was but   
   > > one molecule. Thousand get infected.   
   > And some even die. Yes Satan's world can be terrible.   
   >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Seems to me that your religion has screwed you royal. For everything   
   goes   
   > > > > to   
   > > > > your blood, even the STD's from having sex of kissing. From the other   
   > > > > persons   
   > > > > blood stream straight to yours. Even catchable from toilet seats,   
   > > > > handshakes,   
   > > > > or salads prepared by queers who wear no gloves when setting up a salad   
   > > > > bar   
   > > > > in a restaurant, or even passerby's who breathe on the veggies, as   
   > > > > hepatitis   
   > > > > and its many forms are highly contagious.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And yes, these things are all the realities of life that you cannot   
   avoid.   
   > > > > As according to you, your body "eats" these things in multiple ways.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Spread the word amongst your JW friends and when the next large meteor   
   > > > > does   
   > > > > a fly by do the JJ thing and escape this world en masse.   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, If so, that is not your fault.And almost no on can escape this   
   > > > world.   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Sincerely James   
   > >   
   > > It just dawned on me. As frequently as your cult changes And or or modifies   
   > > its doctrine, you may die and they might close the door on you forevermore.   
   >   
   > You can call it a cult all you want. It wont become that because of   
   > your calls.   
      
   Of course not, it has been that way since its inception. One that you delight   
   in and one that you mock the teachings of Christ, the Anointed One. One that   
   prophesied about the return of some disciples, even buying them homes in San   
   Diego. Where are they?   
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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