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   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 9/07/2023 10:22 am, James wrote:   
   > On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 08:31:29 +1000, Michael Christ   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 6/07/2023 10:57 pm, James wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 11:03:38 +1000, Michael McLean   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 18/06/2023 8:06 pm, James wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 26 May 2023 09:14:44 +1000, Michael McLean   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 26/05/2023 2:36 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 May 2023 22:20:35 +1000, Michael McLean   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Michael wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You stubborn sinful bastard, James.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> And a good sunrise to you.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> And may the bird of Paradise who was completely constipated, land   
   on   
   >>>>>>>>>>> your head.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Michael wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> And fucketh thee too, your holiness.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> Sorry for my nasty statement. I normally don't do that. Must have   
   been   
   >>>>>>>>> too sensitive to your comment that day. I was in the Navy many moons   
   >>>>>>>>> ago, and picked up a lot of bad habits that still influence me. So   
   >>>>>>>>> again, sorry.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I never held it against you; it is not the problem.  Please take the   
   >>>>>>>> time to ponder what is said here, and not just jump to the JW religion   
   >>>>>>>> to try and defend your particular religious doctrines, like all the   
   >>>>>>>> others do.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I don't jump to the JW religion, I jump to the Bible. (practically the   
   >>>>>>> same thing though)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This is not about religion, it is about God and you.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If God is involved, it must be religion is also, since to me God is   
   >>>>>>> the purist of  religion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> God is not a religion, He is a Person.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Where God goes, a religion goes. I am just speaking metaphorically.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You are more than a religion.   
   >>>   
   >>> Explain please.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And so it is with God.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> He is a Person.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I know it seems impossible, but just pretend for a moment that in my   
   >>>>>>>> reply to you, God is trying to get something through to you.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I always accept God's intervention.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The sinner says.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yes, ALL humans sin.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Sin does not justify you.   
   >>>   
   >>> Justify or not, we all sin, like it or not   
   >>>>   
   >>>> God does not say you will remain in your sin.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Besides, if you can't even see this below, how can you see a greater   
   >>>> thing???   
   >>>>   
   >>>> James wrote:   
   >>>>> I always accept God's intervention.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That is a lie from a liar, James, because you are a sinner.   
   >>>   
   >>> Likewise are you.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You can't have it both ways, Buddy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It reveals your religion: compromise.   
   >>>   
   >>> Specifics please.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What could that be?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Are you a sinner?  Indeed, does it really bother you all that much?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yes, just like the Bible says ALL persons are. Jesus is the only human   
   >>>>>>> person that never sinned. (angels sent from God who manufactured human   
   >>>>>>> bodies don't count)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Don't bother me that much since I usually don't purposely sin, and I   
   >>>>>>> know Jesus' ransom can forgive my, and all persons sins.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It is NOT about sin (you).  It is NOT about what you have done, it is   
   >>>>>> about what you haven't done (Him).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Specifics please.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Lose your life.   
   >>>   
   >>> That time is coming. (more than likely)   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It has been said many times in many different ways.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Luk_17:33  Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and   
   >>>> whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.   
   >>>   
   >>> So let's all commit suicide?   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why would a person lose their life?  For a sinner's religion?  No, that   
   >>>> will never happen.   
   >>>   
   >>> On the contrary, There are Satanic religions around.And God has   
   >>> already judged them.(read Revelation around chapter 20.   
   >>>   
   >>> God has never died, nor will He ever. (Ps 90:2)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> God is a Person and the only reason a person can lose their life is   
   >>>> solely because He is who He is, and it has nothing to do with sin.   
   >>>   
   >>> That makes no sense to me. Please rephrase.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is a personal choice, that is all, a personal choice granted by the   
   >>>> grace and mercy of God.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Job.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine   
   >>>> eye seeth thee.   
   >>>> Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Job abhorred himself because it was obvious; he needed to repent because   
   >>>> it was obvious; he was a sinner because self was at his centre. He saw   
   >>>> who he was and made a personal, free choice.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Same as the thief on the cross next to Jesus.  He deserved to be   
   >>>> crucified because he was a sinner but made a personal free choice.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Abel did choose God, Cain didn't choose God.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Jacob did choose God, Esau didn't   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And throughout history man has exercised his free personal choice.  All   
   >>>> were sinners, but only a few chose God.  And all those who chose God did   
   >>>> so for the same reason: He is who He is.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And so chose to lost their lives.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You as a sinner can call those all "continuing sinners" if you like, but   
   >>>> God calls them something entirely different.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Anyway, it is as it has always been: all or nothing with God. That has   
   >>>> nothing to do with saying, "Everyone is a sinner." Which is one   
   >>>> miserable, vomit-worthy excuse for a sinner to try to justify himself as   
   >>>> he is.  That is you, James. You should be ashamed of yourself.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You saying sorry about bird droppings is way too shallow and not what   
   >>>>>>>> the Lord is looking for from you.  Besides, do you really think, thus   
   >>>>>>>> far, your sinner state has been idyllically holy?  Come on!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I don't think that at all. I just put myself in Jesus and God's hands   
   >>>>>>> and know they will do what is right. If I am to be saved, fantastic!   
   >>>>>>> If not, so be it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Look at your comments again.  Are they of a self-righteous sinner in   
      
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