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   On Jul 9, 2023, tesla sTinker wrote   
   (in article ):   
      
   >   
   > On 7/8/2023 11:31 PM, No one scribbled:   
   > > On Jul 8, 2023, tesla sTinker wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > On 6/24/2023 12:23 AM, No one scribbled:   
   > > > > On Jun 23, 2023, tesla sTinker wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Leviticus   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > 29 And this shall be to you an everlasting ordinance: The seventh   
   month,   
   > > > > > the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and shall   
   do   
   > > > > > no work, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that   
   > > > > > sojourneth among you. 30 Upon this day shall be the expiation for   
   you,   
   > > > > > and the cleansing from all your sins: you shall be cleansed before   
   the   
   > > > > > Lord. 31 For it is a sabbath of rest, and you shall afflict your   
   souls   
   > > > > > by a perpetual religion. 32 And the priest that is anointed, and   
   whose   
   > > > > > hands are consecrated to do the office of the priesthood in his   
   father's   
   > > > > > stead, shall make atonement; and he shall be vested with the linen   
   robe   
   > > > > > and the holy vestments, 33 And he shall expiate the sanctuary and the   
   > > > > > tabernacle of the testimony and the altar, the priest also and all   
   the   
   > > > > > people 34 And this shall be an ordinance for ever, that you pray for   
   the   
   > > > > > children of Israel, and for all their sins once in a year. He did   
   > > > > > therefore as the Lord had commanded Moses.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > See where it says forever. But you, being the protestant that you   
   are,   
   > > > > > do not understand, the word confess, is in the Bible in many many   
   places   
   > > > > > and there are precepts law, involved. Just cause it says to pray for   
   > > > > > the others, like in them confessing one to another, it has nothing   
   to do   
   > > > > > with the priesthood. That is something your supposed to do anyway,   
   even   
   > > > > > with the part of the law to the priesthood. YOU do both dummy no   
   body.   
   > > > > > That is why, it is in the Bible old testament. Jesus did not annul   
   > > > > > that. You protestants do all that crap   
   > > > >   
   > > > > When Christ died for sins, the Temple in Jerusalem was opened up in the   
   > > > > Holy   
   > > > > of Holies as the spirit of God departed when the veil was ripped in   
   half.   
   > > > > Jesus was THE Promised Sacrifice for Sin. Once, for all time. No more   
   > > > > annual   
   > > > > sacrifice for sin that meant anything to God.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You err here because of your lack of understanding and knowledge.   
   > > >   
   > > > no its you who lack it. Forgiveness of sins happened before Jesus.   
   > > > Jesus just continued it in the new covenant with new requirement. Of   
   > > > the true priesthood, not a fake one. One Baptism, One Faith.   
   > >   
   > > Jesus disannulled the Mosaic Law of Sin and death.   
   > > Everyone from Adam on offered up blood sacrifices in faith, for the   
   > > Sacrifice   
   > > of the Lamb of God, which is Jesus. When that happened there was no more   
   > > annual sacrifice for sin. Christ did it once for all and all time. Jesus is   
   > > now the High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. Those who are Born   
   Again   
   > > are of His Priesthood. Not some religion or religious organization.   
   > >   
   > > You have yet to understand what One Baptism means, as well as One Faith. It   
   > > has nothing to do with the RCC or its associates.   
   >   
   > excommunicated heretic apostatized liar you are Robert and full of sins.   
   > You keep to put words in God's Mouth that are not His words at all.   
   > And continue your charades with lies of your own name, etc etc and lies   
   > of everything else to a world full of people who have not yet, read   
   > God's Bible. The young best not listen to you, for they will only learn   
   > lies, same as Mickey boy here, using the name of God, another   
   > excommunicated heretic apostatized liar.   
      
   Never was a RC so none of that can be true.   
      
   As I said, and you tried to deflect it, you know nothing of the meanings.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > On 6/23/2023 1:46 PM, No one scribbled:   
   > > > > > > On Jun 23, 2023, servant wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article<6495d0a4$0$2245$1c4686b2@news.club.cc.cmu.edu>):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Friend james proposes a theory:>   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > No one went to a confessional by the first century Christians.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Correct, one by one individuals stood before the congregation for   
   > > > > > > > public   
   > > > > > > > confession/absolution of their sins in the early church.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > No proof of that shown.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > How does the jw vatican prescribe practicing confe   
   sion/absolution and   
   > > > > > > > on   
   > > > > > > > what authority?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > 1 John says all blievers sin and confession of the sin is the   
   cure. He   
   > > > > > > > adds if someone says they do not sin; they are a liar.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Confessing is not a cure. That is pretty obvious to everyone.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > As for who has the authority of absolution scripture declares:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > In the Gospel of John, Jesus says to the Apostles, after being   
   raised   
   > > > > > > > from   
   > > > > > > > the dead, "Receive the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive, they   
   are   
   > > > > > > > forgiven; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained".   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > That verse is also out of character and out of place. since on its   
   face   
   > > > > > > a   
   > > > > > > person who was not Born Again could conceivably be forgiven against   
   > > > > > > their   
   > > > > > > will, against Gods will, and whether or not the person actually   
   asked   
   > > > > > > for   
   > > > > > > it.   
   > > > > > > That is not in conformity with any other part of scripture,   
   especially   
   > > > > > > when   
   > > > > > > a   
   > > > > > > person sins against or blasphemes the Holy Spirit. The only   
   possible   
   > > > > > > other   
   > > > > > > explanation would be if a brother sinned agains them, could they   
   > > > > > > forgive,   
   > > > > > > similar to Peter asking Jesus about how many times should he   
   forgives   
   > > > > > > someone   
   > > > > > > who offends them.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Nowhere in the Book of Acts or in the Epistles do we find any   
   instance   
   > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > an   
   > > > > > > apostle remitting the sins of anyone. They do go everywhere,   
   proclaiming   
   > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > forgiveness of sins. Let me ask the question: What is it that   
   forgives   
   > > > > > > sins?   
   > > > > > > Even God cannot just arbitrarily forgive sins. Forgiveness of sins   
   is   
   > > > > > > only   
      
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