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   From: tiller@soil.org.9   
      
   concerning the 'Magi"   
      
   > you do know, of course, that there were a large number of Jews who   
   > stayed in Babylonia and Persia after the displacement in the 500s b.c.   
   > who never returned to Judea and some are there to this day.   
      
   > Daniel even wrote a piece on the coming Messiah, didn't he?   
      
      
   so look, Jews in Babylon and Persia who have been there since ~586 BC   
   have Daniel's timeline in hand, and they use the predictable nature   
   of the placement of Stars in the sky as a clock of sorts and wait for a   
   particular configuration to signal the time of Daniel's forecast   
     of some great event.   
      
   remember, Babylon killed all the male members of   
   the Royal House of David, but there were some girls   
   who survived and the lineage was preserved,   
   and Jesus was part of that lineage   
      
   etc. etc etc....   
      
   it may be some other strange coincidence that this   
   predicatble configuration just happens to show   
   something like Jupiter in Virgo   
      
   where Melchi is Jupiter,,,   
      
      
   after    all  God -says- this;   
      
   ===   
   Genesis 1;14   
      
   And God said: Let there be lights made in the firmament of heaven,   
   to divide the day and the night,   
      
   and let them be for signs, and for appointed times,   
      
   and for days and years:   
   ===   
      
      
   one of the functions you can get from stars   
      
   is  the identification of    "signs and appointed times..."   
      
   etc etc etc.   
      
      
   we just don't live in a clockwork pre-determined   
   universe where all things are set in stone from   
     before the beginning.   
      
      
   so-called "determinism" but that's another story...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)