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   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Jul 22, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<06hnbi1eftpofkmmaernibb3gvtp57odpv@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 12:01:40 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Jul 20, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > Opposers and apostates.   
   > > >   
   > > > There is always one true religion.In the OT it was the Israelites who   
   > > > were gifted with it. In the NT it was Jesus and his apostles. Then it   
   > > > was the Bible for a couple of thousands of years.   
   > > >   
   > > > But during those times Opposers and apostates ran rampant. But for a   
   > > > while God and Jesus kept such active ones at bay.   
   > > >   
   > > > From Jesus time to the present, Satan has been working hard to   
   > > > downgrade the Bible's doctrines. And this was to start once the   
   > > > apostles and Jesus passed off the scene. Notice:   
   > > >   
   > > > (Acts 20:29, 30) I know that after my going away oppressive wolves   
   > > > will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness,   
   > > > 30and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted   
   > > > things to draw away the disciples after themselves.   
   > >   
   > > That was Paul speaking, Jesus spoke of these things in Matthew and other   
   > > Gospels while he still dwelled on this earth, before His death.   
   > >   
   > > Jesus spoke thusly, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in   
   > > sheep's   
   > > clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” (Mat 7:15)   
   > > In many scriptures and various ways.   
   > >   
   > > Paul was speaking of the cults, such as your and so you are fulfilling v30   
   > > to   
   > > the detriment and destructions of you all, if you do not repent. As it   
   > > stands   
   > > currently you are all accursed, as spoken by Paul as well.   
   >   
   > Any one who follows the letter of the Bible, is not accursed. You call   
   > the JW's a cult. Please show me the Scriptures that says we are a   
   > cult.Enquiring minds want to know.   
      
   “But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the   
   heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but   
   of God.” (Rom 2:29)   
      
   “But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were   
   held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of   
   the letter.” (Rom 7:6)   
      
   Just as the RCC nor the Orthodox, and others are not spoken of my name   
   neither is the JW.   
      
   You all are in this manner. “Having a form of godliness, but denying the   
   power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Ti 3:5)   
      
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   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Also, toward the end times, very difficult times would be happening:   
   > > >   
   > > > (2 Timothy 3:1-5) But know this, that in the last days critical times   
   > > > hard to deal with will be here. 2For men will be lovers of   
   > > > themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers,   
   > > > disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3having no natural   
   > > > affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without   
   > > > self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4betrayers,   
   > > > headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than   
   > > > lovers of God, 5having an appearance of godliness but proving false   
   > > > to its power; and from these turn away.   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice there was to be a FORM of the true religion, but it would be   
   > > > full of non truths as well. The apostates make themselves known by   
   > > > these things:   
   > >   
   > > Yes, you have, as I just mentioned to you in another post   
   > >   
   > > “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such   
   turn   
   > > away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive   
   > > silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and   
   > > never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres   
   > > withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds,   
   > > reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for   
   their   
   > > folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.” (2Ti 3:5-9)   
   > >   
   > > And for these things your cult is accursed.   
   >   
   > Nonsense.You will not find a more Biblically Copy organization.   
      
   So What? “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils   
   also believe, and tremble.” (Jas 2:19)   
      
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > (Proverbs 11:9) 9By his mouth the apostate brings his neighbor to   
   > > > ruin,...   
   > >   
   > > As the knock on the doors from house to house.   
   >   
   > Yes, Jesus and his apostles went house to house in the first   
   > century.Do you downgrade \them as well?   
      
   They were not door knockers.   
      
   “And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not,   
   it shall turn to you again. And in the same house remain, eating and drinking   
   such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from   
   house to house.” (Luk 10:6-7)   
      
   Act 2:46And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and   
   breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and   
   singleness of heart,   
      
   Act 20:20And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have   
   shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,   
      
   In the latter two verses they were speaking of going to the homes of the   
   believers.   
      
   Jesus and the disciples operated in public.   
      
   >   
   > "was God" is not written in stone. Not all Bible scholars agree.Notice   
   > more about John 1:1:   
      
   Many like the JW are false prophets and know not the power of God.   
   >   
   >   
   > "The verse has been a source of much debate among Bible scholars and   
   > translators....So, whether the predicate (theos) is definite,   
   > indefinite or qualitative depends on the context. Consequently, this   
   > article raises the concern that uncertainty with respect to the   
   > grammar may result in translations based on the theology of the   
   > translator. The commonly held theology that Jesus is God naturally   
   > leads to a corresponding translation. But a theology in which Jesus is   
   > subordinate to God leads to the conclusion that "... a god" or "...   
   > divine" is the proper rendering"   
   > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1)   
      
   Anyone could write that and shade the word. Is this now a biblical authority   
   of the JW?   
      
   The believer is to be led by the Spirit of God. Even if an apostle is   
   teaching, we are required to test the spirits to see if they be of God. As to   
   the JW? There are no signs and wonders following.   
      
   “And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them,   
   and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.” (Mar 16:20)   
      
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   > > > Yes he speaks things contrary to the Bible. And those who listen to   
   > > > them he brings down also.   
   > >   
   > > Which you do here as well as to your neighbors,   
   >   
      
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