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   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Jul 28, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<6oh8ci5vu3flmlmc68c1kn0656m27seuc6@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On 28 Jun 2023 18:44:14 GMT, servant wrote:   
   >   
   > > > > Speaking of Christ; the founder of what was to become the jw vatican   
   > > > > pointed in part to the "3 wise men" as illustration of the worship of   
   > > > > Christ:   
   >   
   > They were pagan astrologers. Don't go by their example. And the Bible   
   > doesn't say they were 3.It doesn't say at all.   
      
   James, you are spreading false tales. Willfully, you do not know that they   
   were pagans, only that the may not have been Jews. They worshipped before   
   Jesus and fell down before him and gave him Great Gifts. They were Joyous   
   regarding Jesus, the King of the Jews, AND God spoke directly to them and   
   they heard and followed His advice.   
      
   You have no evidence that they were astrologers either, that is from your RC   
   background. Gen 1:14 the stars are for signs, etc.   
      
   So how about you stop spreading false tales.   
   >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > "It seems clear that His Divinity was retained in humanity because He   
   > > > > repeatedly spoke of Himself as having come down from heaven, and   
   because   
   > > > > He, though passing through trial and sorrow as a man, was yet   
   possessed of   
   > > > > the authority and exercised the prerogatives of a God.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > He was the object of   
   > > > > unreproved worship even when a babe, by the wise men who came to see   
   > > > > the new-born King. Matt. 2:2-11. Even the angels delighted to do Him   
   > > > > honor.   
   > > > > "When He bringeth the first-begotten into the world, He saith, "And   
   > > > > let all the angels of God worship Him." Heb. 1:6.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > He never reproved any one for acts of worship offered to Himself, but   
   when   
   > > > > Cornelius offered such service to Peter--the leading apostle-- "he took   
   > > > > him   
   > > > > up, saying, stand up; I myself also am a man." .... Had Christ not been   
   > > > > more than a man the same reason would have prevented from receiving   
   > > > > worship...."   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Zion's Watch Tower   
   > > > > 1880 Oct pp.2-3   
   > > Friend james tries a failed excuse, that in fact exposes jw vatican'   
   > > duplicity: , see below:   
   > >   
   > > > You missed things in 1880. JW's used to smoke.They also used to join   
   > > > the military, etc. And likely celebrated the holidays.They have   
   > > > prgressed by following this Scripture:>   
   > >   
   > > > (Proverbs 4:18) But the path of the righteous is like the bright   
   > > > morning light That grows brighter and brighter until full daylight.   
   > > As multiplle times now, that excuse flops as scripture provides. The verse   
   > > before and the one following define what becomes "brighter", it is the   
   > > spiritual life of the righteous. The context of the 3 verses is the   
   > > contrast between those righteous and those evil.   
   > >   
   > > Now where oh wheree can the jw vatican's use of scripture excuse their   
   > > continuing flip flopping on doctrines? That flip flop happened in 1954   
   > > long after the founding mentioned above. One week worship was ample at the   
   > > "hall", the next week it ceased because the jw vatican said He was suddenly   
   > > not rorthy of worship.   
   >   
   > Just Pr 4:18 in action. You will never convince me it doesn't mean   
   > what it says.   
      
   Problem is, that you are clueless about what it says.   
      
   “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and   
   more unto the perfect day.” (Pro 4:18)   
      
   “But the path of the [uncompromisingly] just and righteous is like the   
   light of dawn, that shines more and more (brighter and clearer) until [it   
   reaches its full strength and glory in] the perfect day [to be prepared].   
   [2Sa 23:4; Mat 5:14; Php 2:15]” (Pro 4:18)   
      
   You see, Light it light and has no part with darkness. And the paths of the   
   Just are straight and narrow, not wavering about as the follow the Light.   
      
   Truth is truth, Doctrinal errors were errors at their inception and remain   
   that way forever. They never become truth, even when you claim perceived   
   truths, which are lies, to be truth of another shade of gray.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > JW's today do no   
   > > t worship   
   > > > Jesus because he was CREATED by god.(Col 1:15) One doesn't worship the   
   > > > creation, but rather the ONE who created, Jehovah God. (Ps 83:18)   
   > >   
   > > Did you spot the snake biting til logical distortion there? One must first   
   > > accept Him being 'created" beforr mentioning worship of creation.   
   > >   
   > > John   
   > > 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that   
   > > whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.   
   > >   
   > > The greek word given as "begotten" means either one of a relationship or   
   > > of a unique kind.   
      
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