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From: none@none.con
On Aug 8, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:27:59 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Jul 29, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article<2qv9ci1l9mvrj3kmmmqe1caceo8ih6qdd5@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 11:01:21 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Jul 10, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article):
> > > >
> > > > > On Jul 8, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > (in article):
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 11:08:44 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You neglected to point out that astronomers had pointed our
a star
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > time of the birth of Christ that possibly led the wisemen to
Jesus.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As I already said before, stars don't move, and then do not
stop over
> > > > > > > > certain places.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Guess who was behind the moving 'star' that almost got Jesus
killed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It was God. The same God who told them,...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > “And being warned of God in a dream that they should not
return
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > Herod,
> > > > > > > they departed into their own country another way.†(Mat 2:12)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That was God's actions. He never sent them. They were astrologers.
A
> > > > > > thing that God despised.
> > > > >
> > > > > > There was a reason why they were sent. The bore with them Gold,
Silver,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > other expensive items worthy of a King.
> > > > >
> > > > > God did not need the astrologers to give them riches.
> > > >
> > > > Yet he used them for His purpose.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > It was those things that enabled them to survive in Egypt when God
> > > > > > told them to leave.
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > > Satan has used the constellations, the names of which were given
by God
> > > > > > is a
> > > > > > corrupt manner as the signs of the Zodiac to deceive men and
detract
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > God. Just as Satan uses the JW uses the cult of the JW.
> > > > >
> > > > > And just how are we a cult??
> > > >
> > > > That is all you ever have been. Starting right off with your false
> > > > prophets.
> > >
> > > Dedicated people trying to understand the Bible.
> >
> > Without the spirit of God dwelling in them they are and were still heathen.
> > Unwashed and unlearned.
>
> Then that is not them. They had Jehovah's Holy Spirit.
That was and still is, them.
Had they the Holy Spirit in them they would not have mistranslated the entire
Bible. Modifying so as to deceive and mislead the world at large. They would
have recognized that Jesus is Jehovah. Thus God, made manifest in the flesh.
>
> >
> > Most all cults are people dedicated to figuring things out, their way. Not
> > God's way.
>
> True.They even stock up weapons and try to defy the government. Where
> the Bible says to obey the government:
You mean like supporting all the weapons manufacturers financially thus
enabling them to produce more war weapons, and thus enrich their pockets? Not
yours, mind you, you are also a money source for the elite in your cult. As
are the financial officers of your cult.
>
>
> - Revised Standard
> Romans 13:1 LET EVERY person be subject to the governing authorities.
> For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have
> been instituted by God.
>
> And they can hand out poison to kill everyone. Yet the Bible says to
> love your neighbor.
Rom 13:1-2
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but
of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God:
and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Do you see your rebellious hypocritical nature here? You point out One but
not Two. You select the 1st verse and construct a theory, but you rebel
against the second verse. When conscripted to fight for the country you
weasel out instead of submitting to them. You balk at even following the
local laws as well, dishonoring them with your religious prideful natures.
And if these things be true, you will suffer damnation.
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > You denial of Jesus Christ as God
> > >
> > > Actually its the Bible's denial that he was God. By the time Paul came
> > > on the scene, Jesus was already in Heaven with God. So please explain
> > > this:
> >
> > I have pointed out to you specifically many verses that show that he is
God,
> > that he was the creator, etc. Etc. You never denied any of them.
>
> Then shame on me. Other than the mistranslation of John 1:1, the
> Bible nowhere calls Jesus the Father or God. He is referred to as the
> Son of God.
Yes, SHAME on you, and I also have nowhere mentioned that Jesus is His
Heavenly Father. You know that as well, yet you persist in speaking shameful
lies. Jesus is not referred to as being the Only Begotten Son, he IS the only
Begotten Son. So why you keep trying to establish your twisted doctrines in
light of the Word of God is to your personal damnation. Why? Not only are you
not subject to the rulers that be per verse 2 above, you are also insultingly
opposed to submitting yourself to Jesus. Just like the Jews who sacrificed
him.
> That is what he himself says as do others:
>
> -- Revised Standard
> Mark 1:1 THE BEGINNING of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Mar 1:6-11
6 And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about
his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;
7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the
latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the
Holy Ghost.
9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of
Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and
the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in
whom I am well pleased.
Get it? Jesus is the one who baptizes the Born Again ones with the Holy
Spirit.
This is the picture of the Godhead as well, for we see the Heavenly Father,
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