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   >>I had a quick look at hthe jw vatican "library".  They claim miricles,   
   >>including healing stopped with the apostles.  That is a theory easy enough   
   >>to test, friend james can find this web page.  Hint, the theory fluncks the   
   >>test of historical witness in the church, read on:   
   >>   
   >>'Miracles Didn't Stop in the First Century - Primary Sources'   
   >>   
   >>The early church fathers recorded miracles and Holy Spirit gifts hundreds   
   >>of years later. What is more, these weren't rare instances...over and over   
   >>they state that these were happening a lot. In fact, Craig Keener (in his   
   >>book on Miracles, which is invaluable) states that miracles were a primary   
   >>evidence that let to the majority of conversions based on what the early   
   >>church fathers said,   
   >>   
   >   
   >>     "Second and third century Christian apologists depict not only   
   >>apostolic leaders but also ordinary Christians as miracle workers. Before   
   >>the 300s exorcisms proved to be a major factor in the spread of   
   >>Christianity; in the 300s exorcisms and miracles are the most explicit   
   >>cause of conversions to Christianity mentioned in early Christians   
   >>sources."   
   >>   
   >   
   Friend james isn't paying attention again, isn't he intersted in being in   
   the truth:   
   >   
   >I never said they all stopped. Just the healings from God's Holy   
   >Spirit. 2 Cor 11:13-15,   
      
   As above, the jw vatican says they stopped.  The test of church history   
   above confirms this is false. As for the 2 Corin:   
      
   11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of   
   light.   
      11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be   
   transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according   
   to their works.   
      
   Did Paul peg the jw vatican in that 2 Corn., yup.  Thier "miricles stopped"   
   claim failed even a simple test in church history.   
      
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