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From: novalidemail@ymail.com
On 8/17/2023 6:44 AM, James wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 12:06:30 -0500, Just a guy
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/23/2023 7:02 AM, James wrote:
>>> Confession before a priest. A Bible docrtrine?
>>>
>>> No one went to a confessional by the first century Christians. A
>>> common opening statement is:
>>>
>>> "Bless me Father for I have sinned. It has been (length of time) since
>>> my last confession. My sins are:
>>>
>>> Notice what the confessioner calls the priest; "Father".
>>> Yet Jesus said at Mt 23:9 in a religious context:
>>>
>>> -- Revised Standard
>>> Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one
>>> Father, who is in heaven.
>>>
>>> When a person goes before a priest in a confessional, the supposed end
>>> result is the forgiveness of his sins. Thus apparently no matter what
>>> sins were committed, they are forgiven. (I've never heard of a case
>>> yet where a priest would not allow forgiveness of the persons' sins)
>>> And "The Catholic Encyclopedia" agrees with this and says, "
>>>
>>> The Church has always taught that every sin, no matter how serious,
>>> can be forgiven."
>>>
>>> Yet the Bible talks about a sins that are not forgiven. Notice Jesus'
>>> own words at Mt 12:31,32,
>>>
>>> "31. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,
>>> but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
>>> 32. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be
>>> forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be
>>> forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (NIV)
>>>
>>> Also at the end of it, the priest usually gives out so many "Our
>>> Father's" and "Hail Mary's" for penance. Yet said said,
>>>
>>> -- Living Bible
>>> Matthew 6:7 ``Don't recite the same prayer over and over as the
>>> heathen do, who think prayers are answered only by repeating them
>>> again and again. Remember, your Father knows exactly what you need
>>> even before you ask him!
>>>
>>> If that isn't enough, there is more.
>>>
>>> Jesus did give his apostles then the gift to forgive sins. (John
>>> 20:21-23)
>>>
>>> But there is no accounts stating that any of the apostles heard a
>>> 'confession' from someone and forgave their sins. God had His rules on
>>> forgiving sin. The apostles by means of the Holy Spirit could discern
>>> whether they qualified for God's forgiveness or not. Notice Acts
>>> 5:1-11.
>>>
>>> But when did the confessional begin? The Catholic Encyliopedia p. 56
>>> reads:
>>>
>>> "Since the fourth century auricular [hearing] confession has been the
>>> accepted method"..[brackets mine]
>>>
>>> Sincerely James
>>
>> Hi my friend..
>>
>> James_5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for
>> another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a
>> righteous man availeth much..
>
> Good Sunrise,
>
> Notice carefully the words. Confess to who?
To the Priest and to God. For myself I have God and my wife to
confess to.
> Just one person? No, to
> "one another".
Is the Priest not also one of us?
Thus Scriptually there is no one person in a
> confessional to confess sins to.
But there is; God and the Priest. God doesn't take up
much space and no Priest that I have ever seen is
guilty of gluttony.
? God is all around you and about you. You are never separated from
Him. In the open air, in the confessional..He sees you, He hears
you, nothing escapes His attention.
Everyone here needs to recognize the fact that they are blind.
>
> As the Catholic Church says above,
>
> "Since the fourth century auricular [hearing] confession has been the
> accepted method"..[brackets mine]"
>
> Thus the practice is post-Biblical..
>
> Sincerely James
> Your hurting.
> Does God care?
> 8/17/23
> Go to jw.org
>
>
>
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