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   From: seaviews7@yahoo.com   
      
   On 9/17/2023 4:19 PM, James scribbled:   
   > On 16 Sep 2023 15:52:42 GMT, servant wrote:   
   >   
   >> It is better to be in the truth then to swallow a lie. Friend james exposes   
   >> the lies of the jw vatican.   
   >>   
   >> He correctly recites from rotely learned jw vatican "explanations" that the   
   >> language of the NT allows wiggle room in understanding.  This is used   
   >> constantly by the jw vatican to pull their bacon from the fire.   
   >   
   > Your prejudice against the JW's has influenced your logic.   
   >>   
   >> After a string of failed predictions on the 2nd   
   >> comeing they said the failures can be explained.  He returned in 1914, he   
   >> was just invisible.   
   >>   
   >> Then they found the account of His ascention.  He said that soon He would   
   >> no longer bee seen.  And it became so, He disappeared from sight when   
   >> enterin clouds. Good golly miss molly, he was then invisible to human   
   >> sight.   
   >   
   > Well, let's see again: Jesus said the WORLD would behold him NO MORE.   
   > That's the world, not just a few who witnessed his ascension. You need   
   > to read the Scriptures more exact to get at its true meaning.   
   >   
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   >   
   >>   
   >> So the "invisible" return in 1914 is explained; after all He said soon none   
   >> would see Him; abracadabra He was invisible.  Whew; that was a close one,   
   >> we pulled our bacon from the fire with a new "correct" theory in the   
   >> wiggle room in the language.   
   >   
   > see above.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Then comes rev.: 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye   
   >> shall see him ... Oh darn, how can we now explain this new failure; asks   
   >> the jw vatican?  He went into clouds, He will return from them and He will   
   >> be visible to all.   
   >   
   > Let's see, the highly SYMBOLIC book of Revelation says every eye shall   
   > see him:   
   >   
   > (Revelation 1:7) Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye   
   > will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the   
   > earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen.   
   >   
      
   there he goes again, the apostatized heretic dicing it up with a false   
   Bible and false beliefs making you believe things that are not true.   
   Trying to make you fear of yourself of your own actions of such as   
   beating on yourself.   Of which, it does not say this at all the true   
   Holy Bible.   
      
   7 Behold, he cometh with the clouds, and every eye shall see him, and   
   they also that pierced him. And all the tribes of the earth shall bewail   
   themselves because of him. Even so. Amen.   
      
   bewail does not mean one who beats on themself.  The devil would beat   
   you yes with it, just like robert doing, but not you if you are of your   
   true Jesus Christ hearing what he said.  It states,  "also"   it does   
   not say it in his screwed up changed up fake screwed up version.??  It   
   also does not say he is coming, it says, he cometh.  robert is of the   
   yes men, anything goes scare em tattic use bad books.  write anything   
   you want, roberts idea,  It is not true at all.  it does not say yes.   
   It says,  Even so.   
      
   The Fact is servant, you are to fear God only, not apostatized heretics   
   named Robert that tell you big lies to make you afraid.   
      
   apostazied heretic thats you , robert, no one, triple faced triple named   
   on the post boards idiot proving that you are a liar just by your using   
   several names.  Anything but the truth is you Robert.   
      
   The name of the book, is the Apocalypse it is not, Revelations   
      
   and no where, will it say, beat on yourselves.  To be sorry is one   
   thing, to do physical harm, is of the devil and another.  stuff it where   
   the sun dont shine Robert, you apostatized heretic.   
      
   It says clouds, but are they?   Maybe they are whirlwinds with clouds,   
   and i would believe it, because of people like you,,, maybe they are   
   stars in the sky, yet they look like clouds.    Milky way.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   > Is the earth divided into "tribes"? Why is he coming with clouds, why   
   > not a clear day? Is the whole planet of people going to BEAT   
   > themselves? The "eyes" then of the highly symbolic book of Revelation   
   > cannot mean literal eyes, otherwise Jesus' statement at John 14:19   
   > would be false. And we both know that would not be possible.   
   > So then, what does it mean?   
   >   
   > Jesus is talking about sight that is not physical. (see John 9:41)   
   > People will discern that Jesus is invisibly present when Jesus starts   
   > to bring destruction upon the ungodly people of this world.   
   > Also notice the move away from literalness with the statement in Re   
   > 1:7 concerning those who will see him, "even those who pierced him".   
   > Those Roman soldiers who pierced Jesus are long since dead. The phrase   
   > must be referring to people who mistreat Jesus' followers at the time   
   > of Jesus presence or parousia. (See Mt 25:40,45)   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
   > Can your part   
   > of the earth survive?   
   > 9/17/23   
   > Go to jw.org   
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