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From: none@none.con
On Sep 26, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 10:41:00 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Sep 23, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:51:45?PM UTC+10, No one wrote:
> > > > On Sep 11, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote
> > > > (in article<51fd457b-f34b-4a81...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:36:56 AM UTC+10,
James
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Is a hurricane an act of God?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What the legal departments want to call it, is up to them. But it
is
> > > > > > NO WAY an act of God.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But there is a force that causes hurricanes, and tornadoes, and
> > > > > > earthquakes, etc. Is it the Devil? No, we can find no evidence of
> > > > > > that. The answer is found at Ecc 9:11,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- New King James
> > > > > > Ecclesiastes 9:11 I returned and saw under the sun that The race is
> > > > > > not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the
wise,
> > > > > > nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of skill; but
> > > > > > time and chance happen to them all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, we all are effected by random chance. There is no escaping it.
> > > > > > And that is what caused this last hurricane, Idalia, to hit.
> > > > >
> > > > > The premise of that piece is a flawed world view that denies God's
> > > > > sovereignty over His creation.
> > > > Does God countermand his sovereignty?
> > >
> > > As God, Jesus is sovereign over His Creation [cf. Col 1]
> > > Vis-a-vis His command over demons, and His reversal of our fallen
Creation
> > > e.g. miracles such as healing etc.
> >
> > Boy that is a very sick view of God. According to that premise when you get
> > sick you should pray for the all the detriments of disease to increase to
> > its
> > fullest that you might receive God's best for you. When you sin, then you
> > should go all out sin to your hearts content, murder everyone you hate,
rape
> > and pillage, gathering up earths pleasures of sin, steal, rob, whatever.
> > After all, to you that was part of creation and Gods will for man.
> >
> > It all that is true, then why did Jesus have to pay such a high price to
> > ransom your spirit? Why did his Father have to sacrifice him?
>
> God among infinite things, is a God of mathematics.Why say this?
>
> Adam when created was a perfect man. He showed God that a perfect
> human could not obey his Creator.He sinned and then all his
> imperfections were passed on genetically to us.
Wrong. When anything has been granted and give free will, they can do
anything they want.
Jesus, who lived on earth as a man, was tempted in all ways like a man. Yet
He did not sin.
Jesus inherited all the genetics of his forefathers, plus the degradation
that occurred in them down through history. Yet He did not sin.
Even the modern man who has been Born Again and walks fully in the Spirit,
shall not sin.
Gal 5:16-25
16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of
the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the
flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the
things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery,
fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife,
seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I
tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do
such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections
and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
And this is for the modern man as well as those during the times of the
Apostles.
>
>
> So God needed someone equal who COULD obey God. So God sent Jesus (who
> agreed) to be the "second Adam" to prove that a perfect human could
> obey God. Thus a perfect man (Adam) died in sin, and it took a perfect
> man (Jesus) to die for our sins.
That is the doctrine of demons.
Don't forget Lucifer, the highest of the ArchAngels, sinned. Him and the host
of angels who followed him, thus sinning also, were tossed out of Heaven and
their home is in the pit of Sheol.
>
>
> This also means that Jesus could not be God, since that would not
> mathematically be equal.
That is another doctrine of demons, and of the spirit of antichrist.
From this others can see your conflict with the word of God, and know that
everyone who spouts such filth is not a "true Christian" a phrase which you,
the mormons, the RCC and the G. Orthodox churches all claim to be.
>
>
> Sincerely James
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jesus commanded the storms to be quiet over the Sea of Galilee, so did
he
> > > > over ride the will of His Father? Think about it.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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