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   On Sep 26, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 08:09:44 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 25, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 14:31:29 -0700, No one  wrote:   
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   > > > > On Sep 24, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:13:15 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article<7osqgid0ku3mdnge9du0eprum81dfr2d6l@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 19:47:40 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Paradise earth?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Most righteous people think they go to Heaven when they die.   
   They   
   > > > > > > > > > would assume the righteous ones in the OT did also. But   
   Jesus said   
   > > > > > > > > > NO!. To repeat, Jesus said no OT servant of God went to   
   Heaven. None,   
   > > > > > > > > > zilch, zero.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > You are a bit behind the eight ball in understanding here, of   
   course   
   > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > dead   
   > > > > > > > > did not, Only the two men who never died, the others went to   
   Paradise.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > If you take all the Bible literally, you can come up with weird   
   > > > > > > > concepts..Back up your statement. Scriptures please.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven but he who   
   descended from   
   > > > > > > > > > heaven, the Son of man.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Nor not even John the Baptist of the NT: Here is the PROOF:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Even John the Baptist of the NT did not make it to Heaven:   
   Jesus   
   > > > > > > > > > again   
   > > > > > > > > > said:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > Matthew 11:11 Truly, I say to you, among those born of women   
   there   
   > > > > > > > > > has risen no one greater than John the Baptist; yet he who   
   is least   
   > > > > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > > > > the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > But some my say,in Peter, 'the earth will be destroyed. That   
   is   
   > > > > > > > > > symbolism. The earth will exist forever: Ec 1:4,   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains   
   forever."   
   > > > > > > > > > (NIV)   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Meaning until the end of its time. You have been shown that   
   countless   
   > > > > > > > > times.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > If something has an END, it is not eternal.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Also, that is not what that Hebrew word means. Here is Strong's   
   > > > > > > > Concordance on "forever".   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Strong's Ref. # 5769   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Romanized `owlam   
   > > > > > > > Pronounced o-lawm'   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > or `olam {o-lawm'}; from HSN5956; properly, concealed, i.e. the   
   > > > > > > > vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future),   
   i.e.   
   > > > > > > > (practically) eternity; frequentatively, adverbial (especially   
   with   
   > > > > > > > prepositional prefix) always:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > As you can see, it also means "eternity".   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > ?o?la?m   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > BDB Definition:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1) long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting,   
   > > > > > > evermore,   
   > > > > > > perpetual, old, ancient, world   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1a) ancient time, long time (of past)   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1b) (of future)   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1b1) for ever, always   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1b2) continuous existence, perpetual   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1b3) everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Yes, it also used as "eternity" but that is not its primary   
   meaning, and   
   > > > > > > since the scriptures cannot go against itself, then it is obvious   
   that   
   > > > > > > since   
   > > > > > > the earth will burn up, that this earth will not remain for an   
   eternity   
   > > > > > > no   
   > > > > > > more than your body will.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > James, countless times we have been through all of this, and you   
   have   
   > > > > > > been   
   > > > > > > given many, many scriptures on all of these topics. Scriptures you   
   > > > > > > cannot   
   > > > > > > explain away not can your cult do so.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What Scriptures? There is none that I cannot explain. If you make a   
   > > > > > Scripture claim, try to back it up   
   > > > >   
   > > > > All the scriptures I have repeatedly requoted to you over the years.   
   You   
   > > > > had   
   > > > > no ears to hear, and you ignored many.   
   > > >   
   > > > I only want to share Bible truths with people.I have usually   
   > > > researched many Scriptures, and believe they are Bible truths.That's   
   > > > the best I can do.   
   > >   
   > > Your perceived "truths" but not the scriptures as written.   
   >   
   > Not true. Give me an example then so we will see.   
   >   
   > > You lie, without remorse/   
   >   
   > You need to look up what a lie is. It's not what you think. If the   
   > person speaking the non truth believes it is the truth, then it is not   
   > a lie. I believe everything I wrote was true. Thus I am not a   
   > liar.From your point of view I might be mistaken, but not lying.   
      
   Your god is a liar, the father of lies. You chose to follow him and use his   
   words, as well as chose to believe his words because you have been deceived,   
   Your current doctrines do not replicate your former doctrines, and the   
   Heavenly Father, God, his words never change, but accomplish all that they   
   were sent to do. Evidence, that you doctrines are of the spirit of the   
   antichrist.   
      
   The Heavenly Father is not the author of confusion, but your god is.Your   
   literature proves it.   
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   > > > > > > > > This earth is polluted as are the heavens above it. For that   
   reason   
   > > > > > > > > they   
   > > > > > > > > will be destroyed,   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > You know nothing about why there are two covenants, the Old one   
   > > > > > > > > fulfilled,   
   > > > > > > > > the New remains, and you know not God.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > I'll let God decide that.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > He already did.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > No one knows God unless it is through the Holy Bible. And I can   
   > > > > > honestly say you don't know the Bible that well. The thought that the   
      
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