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From: none@none.con
On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:05:17 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Sep 26, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 10:41:00 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sep 23, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote
> > > > (in article):
> > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:51:45?PM UTC+10, No one wrote:
> > > > > > On Sep 11, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote
> > > > > > (in article<51fd457b-f34b-4a81...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:36:56 AM
UTC+10, James
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Is a hurricane an act of God?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What the legal departments want to call it, is up to them. But
it is
> > > > > > > > NO WAY an act of God.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But there is a force that causes hurricanes, and tornadoes, and
> > > > > > > > earthquakes, etc. Is it the Devil? No, we can find no evidence
of
> > > > > > > > that. The answer is found at Ecc 9:11,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- New King James
> > > > > > > > Ecclesiastes 9:11 I returned and saw under the sun that The
race is
> > > > > > > > not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to
the wise,
> > > > > > > > nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of skill;
but
> > > > > > > > time and chance happen to them all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, we all are effected by random chance. There is no
escaping it.
> > > > > > > > And that is what caused this last hurricane, Idalia, to hit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The premise of that piece is a flawed world view that denies
God's
> > > > > > > sovereignty over His creation.
> > > > > > Does God countermand his sovereignty?
> > > > >
> > > > > As God, Jesus is sovereign over His Creation [cf. Col 1]
> > > > > Vis-a-vis His command over demons, and His reversal of our fallen
> > > > > Creation
> > > > > e.g. miracles such as healing etc.
> > > >
> > > > Boy that is a very sick view of God. According to that premise when you
> > > > get sick you should pray for the all the detriments of disease to
increase to
> > > > its fullest that you might receive God's best for you. When you sin,
then you
> > > > should go all out sin to your hearts content, murder everyone you hate,
> > > > rape and pillage, gathering up earths pleasures of sin, steal, rob,
whatever.
> > > > After all, to you that was part of creation and Gods will for man.
> > > >
> > > > It all that is true, then why did Jesus have to pay such a high price
to
> > > > ransom your spirit? Why did his Father have to sacrifice him?
> > >
> > > God among infinite things, is a God of mathematics.Why say this?
> > >
> > > Adam when created was a perfect man. He showed God that a perfect
> > > human could not obey his Creator.He sinned and then all his
> > > imperfections were passed on genetically to us.
> >
> > Wrong. When anything has been granted and give free will, they can do
> > anything they want.
> > Jesus, who lived on earth as a man, was tempted in all ways like a man. Yet
> > He did not sin.
> > Jesus inherited all the genetics of his forefathers, plus the degradation
> > that occurred in them down through history. Yet He did not sin.
>
> Jesus inherited no bad genes. Jesus was perfect, just like Adam was at
> creation. That why the Bible calls Jesus the "last Adam".
Take note of your line above and compare it to your line below.
>
> -- Revised Standard
> 1 Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a
> living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
Do Spirits have genes?
Jesus is the son of David, King David. You should have known that. He was
born in the family tree.
>
>
> 1 Pe 1:18,19, "18. For you know that it was not with perishable
> things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty
> way of life handed down to you from your forefathers,
> 19. but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or
> defect." (NIV)
>
> Yes, the lamb Jesus had no blemishes or defects. (was perfect)
“It was the precious blood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of God.”
(1Pe 1:19)
You based your thought on a poorly translated document and came up with a
false understanding.
>
> >
> > Even the modern man who has been Born Again and walks fully in the Spirit,
> > shall not sin.
> >
> > Gal 5:16-25
> >
> > 16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of
> > the flesh.
> >
> > 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the
> > flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do
the
> > things that ye would.
> >
> > 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
> >
> > 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery,
> > fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
> >
> > 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife,
> > seditions, heresies,
> >
> > 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which
I
> > tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do
> > such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
> >
> > 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
> > gentleness, goodness, faith,
> >
> > 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
> >
> > 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections
> > and lusts.
> >
> > 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
> >
> > And this is for the modern man as well as those during the times of the
> > Apostles.
>
> It doesn't say that humans are sinless. On the contrary, the Bible
> says all humans sin:
Why are you twisting things and trying to deceive others? It did not say or
infer that. Try reading it again.
>
> Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)
A Born Again Believer, which was NOT possible in the days of Job, is made the
righteousness of GOD the FATHER. Made that way in the spirit of Man by the
Pure Spirit of God.
>
> 1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
> the truth is not in us." (KJV)
Again you read that without understanding. And are attempting to misapply it.
“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one
with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all
sin.” (1Jn 1:7)
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