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   On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<3rd9hi14fajmaate6kil1bm6t9j782dvas@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:04:48 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:05:17 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sep 26, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 10:41:00 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Sep 23, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:51:45?PM UTC+10, No one   
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (in article<51fd457b-f34b-4a81...@googlegroups.com>):   
   > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:36:56 AM   
   UTC+10,   
   > > > > > > > > > James   
   > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > Is a hurricane an act of God?   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > What the legal departments want to call it, is up to them.   
   But it is   
   > > > > > > > > > > NO WAY an act of God.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > But there is a force that causes hurricanes, and   
   tornadoes, and   
   > > > > > > > > > > earthquakes, etc. Is it the Devil? No, we can find no   
   evidence of   
   > > > > > > > > > > that. The answer is found at Ecc 9:11,   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > -- New King James   
   > > > > > > > > > > Ecclesiastes 9:11 I returned and saw under the sun that   
   The race is   
   > > > > > > > > > > not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread   
   to the   
   > > > > > > > > > > wise,   
   > > > > > > > > > > nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of   
   skill; but   
   > > > > > > > > > > time and chance happen to them all.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we all are effected by random chance. There is no   
   escaping it.   
   > > > > > > > > > > And that is what caused this last hurricane, Idalia, to   
   hit.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > The premise of that piece is a flawed world view that denies   
   God's   
   > > > > > > > > > sovereignty over His creation.   
   > > > > > > > > Does God countermand his sovereignty?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > As God, Jesus is sovereign over His Creation [cf. Col 1]   
   > > > > > > > Vis-a-vis His command over demons, and His reversal of our fallen   
   > > > > > > > Creation   
   > > > > > > > e.g. miracles such as healing etc.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Boy that is a very sick view of God. According to that premise   
   when you   
   > > > > > > get sick you should pray for the all the detriments of disease to   
   > > > > > > increase to   
   > > > > > > its fullest that you might receive God's best for you. When you   
   sin,   
   > > > > > > then you   
   > > > > > > should go all out sin to your hearts content, murder everyone you   
   hate,   
   > > > > > > rape and pillage, gathering up earths pleasures of sin, steal, rob,   
   > > > > > > whatever.   
   > > > > > > After all, to you that was part of creation and Gods will for man.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > It all that is true, then why did Jesus have to pay such a high   
   price to   
   > > > > > > ransom your spirit? Why did his Father have to sacrifice him?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > God among infinite things, is a God of mathematics.Why say this?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Adam when created was a perfect man. He showed God that a perfect   
   > > > > > human could not obey his Creator.He sinned and then all his   
   > > > > > imperfections were passed on genetically to us.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Wrong. When anything has been granted and give free will, they can do   
   > > > > anything they want.   
   > > > > Jesus, who lived on earth as a man, was tempted in all ways like a man.   
   > > > > Yet   
   > > > > He did not sin.   
   > > > > Jesus inherited all the genetics of his forefathers, plus the   
   degradation   
   > > > > that occurred in them down through history. Yet He did not sin.   
   > > >   
   > > > Jesus inherited no bad genes. Jesus was perfect, just like Adam was at   
   > > > creation. That why the Bible calls Jesus the "last Adam".   
   > >   
   > > Take note of your line above and compare it to your line below.   
   > > >   
   > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > 1 Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a   
   > > > living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.   
   > >   
   > > Do Spirits have genes?   
   >   
   > Genes are part of the human body.Angels are not human, thus don't have   
   > genes.   
      
   OK   
   >   
   >   
   > > Jesus is the son of David, King David. You should have known that. He was   
   > > born in the family tree.   
   >   
   > Which was predicted long ago.   
      
   Yet you claimed he had no genes of sin, etc. What's up with that? Shooting   
   yourself in the foot?   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > 1 Pe 1:18,19, "18. For you know that it was not with perishable   
   > > > things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty   
   > > > way of life handed down to you from your forefathers,   
   > > > 19. but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or   
   > > > defect." (NIV)   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, the lamb Jesus had no blemishes or defects. (was perfect)   
   > >   
   > > “It was the precious blood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of   
   > > God.”   
   > > (1Pe 1:19)   
   > >   
   > > You based your thought on a poorly translated document and came up with a   
   > > false understanding.   
   >   
   > What " poorly translated document."?   
      
   The poorly translated Not Inspired Version. Which you used, and likewise the   
   NWT,   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Even the modern man who has been Born Again and walks fully in the   
   Spirit,   
   > > > > shall not sin.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Gal 5:16-25   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the   
   lust of   
   > > > > the flesh.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the   
   > > > > flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot   
   do   
   > > > > the   
   > > > > things that ye would.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery,   
   > > > > fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife,   
   > > > > seditions, heresies,   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the   
   > > > > which I   
   > > > > tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which   
   do   
   > > > > such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,   
   > > > > gentleness, goodness, faith,   
   > > > >   
      
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