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From: none@none.con
On Sep 28, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 19:14:57 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article<3rd9hi14fajmaate6kil1bm6t9j782dvas@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:04:48 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article):
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:05:17 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 26, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 10:41:00 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sep 23, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:51:45?PM UTC+10, No one
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2023, Ollie Smth wrote
> > > > > > > > > > (in article<51fd457b-f34b-4a81...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 6:36:56Ã
€¯AM UTC+10,
> > > > > > > > > > > James
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Is a hurricane an act of God?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What the legal departments want to call it, is up to
them. But it
> > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > NO WAY an act of God.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But there is a force that causes hurricanes, and
tornadoes, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > earthquakes, etc. Is it the Devil? No, we can find no
evidence of
> > > > > > > > > > > > that. The answer is found at Ecc 9:11,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -- New King James
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ecclesiastes 9:11 I returned and saw under the sun
that The race
> > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor
bread to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > wise,
> > > > > > > > > > > > nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men
of skill; but
> > > > > > > > > > > > time and chance happen to them all.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we all are effected by random chance. There is no
escaping
> > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > And that is what caused this last hurricane, Idalia,
to hit.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The premise of that piece is a flawed world view that
denies God's
> > > > > > > > > > > sovereignty over His creation.
> > > > > > > > > > Does God countermand his sovereignty?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As God, Jesus is sovereign over His Creation [cf. Col 1]
> > > > > > > > > Vis-a-vis His command over demons, and His reversal of our
fallen
> > > > > > > > > Creation
> > > > > > > > > e.g. miracles such as healing etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Boy that is a very sick view of God. According to that premise
when
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > get sick you should pray for the all the detriments of disease
to
> > > > > > > > increase to
> > > > > > > > its fullest that you might receive God's best for you. When
you sin,
> > > > > > > > then you
> > > > > > > > should go all out sin to your hearts content, murder everyone
you
> > > > > > > > hate,
> > > > > > > > rape and pillage, gathering up earths pleasures of sin, steal,
rob,
> > > > > > > > whatever.
> > > > > > > > After all, to you that was part of creation and Gods will for
man.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It all that is true, then why did Jesus have to pay such a
high price
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > ransom your spirit? Why did his Father have to sacrifice him?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > God among infinite things, is a God of mathematics.Why say this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Adam when created was a perfect man. He showed God that a perfect
> > > > > > > human could not obey his Creator.He sinned and then all his
> > > > > > > imperfections were passed on genetically to us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wrong. When anything has been granted and give free will, they can
do
> > > > > > anything they want.
> > > > > > Jesus, who lived on earth as a man, was tempted in all ways like a
man.
> > > > > > Yet
> > > > > > He did not sin.
> > > > > > Jesus inherited all the genetics of his forefathers, plus the
> > > > > > degradation
> > > > > > that occurred in them down through history. Yet He did not sin.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jesus inherited no bad genes. Jesus was perfect, just like Adam was
at
> > > > > creation. That why the Bible calls Jesus the "last Adam".
> > > >
> > > > Take note of your line above and compare it to your line below.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Revised Standard
> > > > > 1 Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a
> > > > > living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
> > > >
> > > > Do Spirits have genes?
> > >
> > > Genes are part of the human body.Angels are not human, thus don't have
> > > genes.
> >
> > OK
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jesus is the son of David, King David. You should have known that. He
was
> > > > born in the family tree.
> > >
> > > Which was predicted long ago.
> >
> > Yet you claimed he had no genes of sin, etc. What's up with that? Shooting
> > yourself in the foot?
>
> Not at all. Going by the Holy Bible.Notice how Mary got pregnant:
“Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had
bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not till she had brought
forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.” (Mat 1:24-25)
As is obvious Jesus was the firstborn son of Mary. Jesus, although conceived
by the Spirit of God, was called and known as the "Son of Man" as well as the
"Son of God.
“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the
heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have
not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our
infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without
sin.” (Heb 4:14-15)
Here you can see that Jesus was tempted the same as we are. So He knows the
depths of temptation that men go through in the various ways, and the
strengths of the temptations, yet he overcame them all.
>
>
> -- New American Standard
> Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His
> mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together
> she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.
>
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