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   On Sep 29, 2023, Just a guy wrote   
   (in article ):   
      
   > On 9/29/2023 11:06 AM, No one wrote:   
   > > On Sep 29, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article<5ojdhi1ub9s7gq0d84sib88ri17jdudpsg@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT), "resl...@yahoo.com"   
   > > >   wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > I am reproducing this from what I have presented on the website:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (1) The Bible hell (sheol/hades) is described as being the realm of   
   death,   
   > > > > that is, the realm of the condition of being dead; it is described as a   
   > > > > condition in which there is no work, no device, no knowledge, nor   
   wisdom.   
   > > > > (Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 -- many translations render "sheol" as "the   
   grave" in   
   > > > > verse 9).   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (2) The only Old Testament word translated hell in the King James   
   Version   
   > > > > is the Hebrew word transliterated as sheol, to which the New Testament   
   > > > > word   
   > > > > transliterated as hades corresponds.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (3) In the King James translation of the Bible, sheol and hades are   
   > > > > translated hell 41 times, grave 32 times and pit 3 times and frequently   
   > > > > when translated hell, the margin reads, "or, the grave," or vice versa.   
   > > > > (Psalm 49:15; 55:15; 86:13; Isaiah 14:9; Jonah 2:2; 1 Corinthians   
   15:55;   
   > > > > Revelation 20:13) Many translations transliterate the words sheol and   
   > > > > hades. A close examination of all the instances sheol and hedes in the   
   > > > > Bible shows that the usage of these words are always in agreement with   
   > > > > what   
   > > > > is stated in Ecclesiastes 9:5,10, except for one instance (Luke 16:23)   
   in   
   > > > > which Jesus makes use of the Hellenistic adaptation of hades to   
   present a   
   > > > > parabolic parody depicting how the Law and the Prophets were until   
   John.   
   > > > > --   
   > > > > Luke 16:16.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (4) Some translations render forms of the Greek word often   
   transliterated   
   > > > > as Gehenna (Valley of Hinnom) as "hell" or "hellfire", but this does   
   not   
   > > > > mean the same as sheol/hades.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (5) Some translations also render the verb often transliterated as   
   > > > > "tataroo" as "cast down to hell", but the word does not mean this at   
   all.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > See our study: Tartaroo Vs. Tartarus   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (6) Satan is a liar and the father of the lie. (John 8:44) Satan   
   promised   
   > > > > Eve that her disobedience to God would not result in death; that is,   
   that   
   > > > > she would not die. He has been using the promise to deceive people all   
   > > > > over   
   > > > > the world ever since. (Genesis 3:1-4; Revelation 12:9) It is Satan who   
   has   
   > > > > the world believing that a person does not really die, therefore he   
   lies   
   > > > > to   
   > > > > the world that those who are bad are roasting somewhere for all   
   eternity,   
   > > > > thus making God appear to be some kind of fiend. With such a view being   
   > > > > broadly presented by a large portion of professed Christians, no wonder   
   > > > > thousands are turning away from the Bible and going to neo-paganism,   
   > > > > heathen religions and philosophies, agnosticism and atheism. The   
   doctrine   
   > > > > of eternal roasting is a blasphemy to the Creator. Indeed, those who   
   claim   
   > > > > to be friends of the Bible are often its worst enemies.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (7) Satan uses all kinds of deceptive means to continue his lies,   
   > > > > including   
   > > > > spiritism, hypnotism, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences,   
   > > > > etc.   
   > > > > "And when they say to you, 'Seek those who are mediums and wizards, who   
   > > > > whisper and mutter,' should not a people seek their God? Should they   
   seek   
   > > > > the dead on behalf of the living? To the law and to the testimony! If   
   they   
   > > > > do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in   
   > > > > them." -- Isaiah 8:19,20, New King James Version.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (8) Many claim that hell is made up of various sections, and that   
   > > > > originally paradise was a part of hell, and that another part of hell   
   > > > > consisted of eternal torture. Contrary to the idea that any part of the   
   > > > > Bible hell is a place of fire, torture, shrieks, etc., the Bible says:   
   > > > > "There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in Sheol,   
   where   
   > > > > you are going." - "in death there is no memory of you. In Sheol, who   
   shall   
   > > > > give you thanks?" - "For Sheol can't praise you, death can't celebrate   
   > > > > you." -- Ecclesiastes 9:10; Psalm 6:5; Isaiah 38:18.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (9) Nevertheless, good people, as well as bad, go to sheol (the Bible   
   > > > > hell)   
   > > > > at death: e.g., Jacob went down to sheol (Genesis 37:35); Job prayed   
   to go   
   > > > > to sheol, to be hidden there, until the resurrection (Job 14:13). Nor   
   does   
   > > > > the Bible even once depict the good as going to an alleged section of   
   > > > > sheol   
   > > > > called "paradise" at death, as is claimed by many. In the Bible,   
   paradise   
   > > > > is never depicted as a section of sheol or hades. Such a thought has   
   to be   
   > > > > imagined beyond what is written, and added to, and read into what is   
   > > > > written. Instead of going to paradise at death, David expected to be in   
   > > > > condition in sheol where he could not give thanks to Jehovah and we   
   > > > > further   
   > > > > read that "Sheol can't praise you, death can't celebrate you." These   
   > > > > descriptions of the righteous in sheol do not agree with the added-on   
   idea   
   > > > > that paradise was ever a compartment in sheol. -- Psalm 6:5; Isaiah   
   38:18.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (10) Jesus made his human soul "an offering for sin"; he "poured out   
   his   
   > > > > soul to death" (Isaiah 53:10, 12; Matthew 26:38), and descended into   
   the   
   > > > > Bible hell, but "his soul was not left in hell [sheol/hades - a state   
   of   
   > > > > unknowing]." Thus, Jesus' soul was in the oblivious condition in the   
   Bible   
   > > > > hell while he was dead, but it did not remain there. His, "soul",   
   however   
   > > > > in coming out of sheol, was not the sacrificed human soul, a little   
   lower   
   > > > > than the angels, which was offered once for all time on behalf of   
   mankind,   
   > > > > but was the exalted glorified soul, for he was put to death in the   
   flesh,   
   > > > > but made alive in the spirit. -- Psalm 16:10; Acts 2:27,31,33; 5:31;   
   > > > > Philippians 2:9; Hebrews 2:9; 1 Peter 3:18.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > (11) In old English the word hell simply meant to hide or to cover -   
   > > > > helling potatoes meant putting them into pits, helling a house meant   
   > > > > covering or thatching it, etc.; the word hell was therefore properly   
   used   
   > > > > as signifying the secret or hidden condition of death. It had no   
   reference   
      
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