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From: none@none.con
On Oct 4, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2023 16:45:35 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Oct 3, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 18:52:00 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sep 29, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article<6coehi9q5a0svgsbm890r0pfu9ru7l2r7f@4ax.com>):
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:03:35 -0500, Just a guy
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/29/2023 11:06 AM, No one wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sep 29, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > > (in article<5ojdhi1ub9s7gq0d84sib88ri17jdudpsg@4ax.com>):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT), "resl...@yahoo.com"
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am reproducing this from what I have presented on the
website:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (1) The Bible hell (sheol/hades) is described as being the
realm of
> > > > > > > > > death,
> > > > > > > > > that is, the realm of the condition of being dead; it is
described
> > > > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > > condition in which there is no work, no device, no
knowledge, nor
> > > > > > > > > wisdom.
> > > > > > > > > (Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 -- many translations render "sheol" as
"the
> > > > > > > > > grave"
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > verse 9).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (2) The only Old Testament word translated hell in the King
James
> > > > > > > > > Version
> > > > > > > > > is the Hebrew word transliterated as sheol, to which the New
> > > > > > > > > Testament
> > > > > > > > > word
> > > > > > > > > transliterated as hades corresponds.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (3) In the King James translation of the Bible, sheol and
hades are
> > > > > > > > > translated hell 41 times, grave 32 times and pit 3 times and
> > > > > > > > > frequently
> > > > > > > > > when translated hell, the margin reads, "or, the grave," or
vice
> > > > > > > > > versa.
> > > > > > > > > (Psalm 49:15; 55:15; 86:13; Isaiah 14:9; Jonah 2:2; 1
Corinthians
> > > > > > > > > 15:55;
> > > > > > > > > Revelation 20:13) Many translations transliterate the words
sheol and
> > > > > > > > > hades. A close examination of all the instances sheol and
hedes in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Bible shows that the usage of these words are always in
agreement
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > is stated in Ecclesiastes 9:5,10, except for one instance
(Luke
> > > > > > > > > 16:23)
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > which Jesus makes use of the Hellenistic adaptation of hades
to
> > > > > > > > > present a
> > > > > > > > > parabolic parody depicting how the Law and the Prophets were
until
> > > > > > > > > John.
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Luke 16:16.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (4) Some translations render forms of the Greek word often
> > > > > > > > > transliterated
> > > > > > > > > as Gehenna (Valley of Hinnom) as "hell" or "hellfire", but
this does
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > mean the same as sheol/hades.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (5) Some translations also render the verb often
transliterated as
> > > > > > > > > "tataroo" as "cast down to hell", but the word does not mean
this at
> > > > > > > > > all.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > See our study: Tartaroo Vs. Tartarus
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (6) Satan is a liar and the father of the lie. (John 8:44)
Satan
> > > > > > > > > promised
> > > > > > > > > Eve that her disobedience to God would not result in death;
that is,
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > she would not die. He has been using the promise to deceive
people
> > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > the world ever since. (Genesis 3:1-4; Revelation 12:9) It is
Satan
> > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > the world believing that a person does not really die,
therefore he
> > > > > > > > > lies
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > the world that those who are bad are roasting somewhere for
all
> > > > > > > > > eternity,
> > > > > > > > > thus making God appear to be some kind of fiend. With such a
view
> > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > broadly presented by a large portion of professed
Christians, no
> > > > > > > > > wonder
> > > > > > > > > thousands are turning away from the Bible and going to
neo-paganism,
> > > > > > > > > heathen religions and philosophies, agnosticism and atheism.
The
> > > > > > > > > doctrine
> > > > > > > > > of eternal roasting is a blasphemy to the Creator. Indeed,
those who
> > > > > > > > > claim
> > > > > > > > > to be friends of the Bible are often its worst enemies.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (7) Satan uses all kinds of deceptive means to continue his
lies,
> > > > > > > > > including
> > > > > > > > > spiritism, hypnotism, near-death experiences, out-of-body
> > > > > > > > > experiences,
> > > > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > "And when they say to you, 'Seek those who are mediums and
wizards,
> > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > whisper and mutter,' should not a people seek their God?
Should they
> > > > > > > > > seek
> > > > > > > > > the dead on behalf of the living? To the law and to the
testimony! If
> > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > do not speak according to this word, it is because there is
no light
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > them." -- Isaiah 8:19,20, New King James Version.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (8) Many claim that hell is made up of various sections, and
that
> > > > > > > > > originally paradise was a part of hell, and that another
part of hell
> > > > > > > > > consisted of eternal torture. Contrary to the idea that any
part of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Bible hell is a place of fire, torture, shrieks, etc., the
Bible
> > > > > > > > > says:
> > > > > > > > > "There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in
Sheol,
> > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > > you are going." - "in death there is no memory of you. In
Sheol, who
> > > > > > > > > shall
> > > > > > > > > give you thanks?" - "For Sheol can't praise you, death can't
> > > > > > > > > celebrate
> > > > > > > > > you." -- Ecclesiastes 9:10; Psalm 6:5; Isaiah 38:18.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (9) Nevertheless, good people, as well as bad, go to sheol
(the Bible
> > > > > > > > > hell)
> > > > > > > > > at death: e.g., Jacob went down to sheol (Genesis 37:35);
Job prayed
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