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XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
From: none@none.con
On Oct 7, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 11:14:57 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Oct 4, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On Tue, 03 Oct 2023 23:38:53 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Oct 3, 2023, James wrote
> > > > (in article):
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 12:59:58 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 2, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 09:48:46 -0700, No one wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2023, James wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 29 Sep 2023 16:55:08 GMT, servant wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Let's help friend james here, who are the "saved" who
go by the
> > > > > > > > > > > > narrow
> > > > > > > > > > > > path
> > > > > > > > > > > > and narrow doar?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Romans
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the
Lord Jesus,
> > > > > > > > > > > > and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised
him from the
> > > > > > > > > > > > dead,
> > > > > > > > > > > > thou shalt be saved.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the
Lord shall be
> > > > > > > > > > > > saved.
> > > > > > > > > > Friend james tries a slight of hand:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Confessing the Lord Jesus, and the name of the Lord
(God),
> > > > > > > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > > > > > > is only going to be a few: Mt 7:13,14,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Indeed, of whom is the above speaking? God raised Christ
bodily,
> > > > > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > > > up on the name of Christ for thoe to be sqaved; when both
verses are
> > > > > > > > > > onsidered. The jw vatican new this; that is why they
changed the
> > > > > > > > > > Lord,
> > > > > > > > > > ie.
> > > > > > > > > > Christ to "jehovah" in the 2nd verse to "fix" scripture
after the
> > > > > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > conform to jw vatican invnted doctrines.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Only for readers of servant:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > First Rom 10:13 in the NWT:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (Romans 10:13) For “everyone who calls on the name of
Jehovah will
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > saved.” (or Yahweh)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is the word "Jehovah" found in the NT Greek manuscripts at
Romans
> > > > > > > > > 10:13? No. But the oldest copies that we have is a couple
hundred
> > > > > > > > > after the writing.We don't have the originals.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also Romans 10:13 is a QUOTE from Joel 2:32a,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -- Darby's Bible
> > > > > > > > > Joel 2:32a And it shall be that whosoever shall call upon
the name of
> > > > > > > > > Jehovah shall be saved:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (see also Young's Bible, America Standard, ASV, HCSB, LSB,
LEB, NOG,
> > > > > > > > > WEB, YLT)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In most cases the Bible distinguishes between Jehovah and
Jesus. But
> > > > > > > > > both are called "Lord" in the Bible.. A good translation will
> > > > > > > > > distinguish between the two.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If we want to put one more pen in the jw vatican baloon,
Calling
> > > > > > > > > > upon
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > name of Christ is in fact calling upon God, Christ is God.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jesus is a creation of God:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard
> > > > > > > > > Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the
first-born
> > > > > > > > > of all creation;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The context around Col 1:15 is things CREATED. Such as
thrones,
> > > > > > > > > dominions, principalities, powers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Don't be led astray by a twisting of the Scriptures. Pray to
God to
> > > > > > > > > give you the actual meaning of the Scriptures. He will not
let you
> > > > > > > > > down.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely James
> > > > > > > > James, they are one and the same. There is no distinction as
to who
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > are.
> > > > > > > > There is a distinction between Jesus and the Heavenly Father,
as well
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Holy Spirit, yet they are all operating with one purpose, and
all of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > mind and attitude. They are the Godhead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The third century Trinity is not found in the Bible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who said it was??
> > > > >
> > > > > The churches.
> > > >
> > > > Not all, so why bring it up?
> > >
> > > It never hurts to bring up Bible truths.
> >
> > Where does the Bible speak on the trinity?
>
> It doesn't.
Again, then why bring it up?
>
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Bible says God one. (Deut 6:4) He is only one Jehovah. One
person.
> > > > > > > God is not suffering from multiple personalities as some humans
do.
> > > > > > > God is full and complete in Himself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hear. Note: Shema Yisrael, Yehowah, Elohainoo, Yehowah aichod,
"Hear,
> > > > > > Israel,
> > > > > > Jehovah, our God, is one Jehovah." On this passage the Jews lay
great
> > > > > > stress;
> > > > > > and it is one of the four passages which they write on their
> > > > > > phylacteries.
> > > > > > On
> > > > > > the word Elohim, Simeon Ben Joachi says; "Come and see the mystery
of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > word Elohim: there are three degrees, and each degree is by itself
> > > > > > alone,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > yet they are all one, and joined together in one, and are not
divided
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > each other" (Zohar. Lev. Sect. 16, Col 116).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one. Heb. echad (S# H259): A numeral from S# H258; properly
united, that
> > > > > > is,
> > > > > > one; or (as an ordinal) first (Strong); it means one in the same
sense
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > our
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