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   Message 140,529 of 141,674   
   No one to James   
   Re: Was Jesus married? (1/2)   
   07 Oct 23 13:03:54   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Oct 7, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:54:44 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 28, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:37:33 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:05:38 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Sep 27, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:39:29 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Sep 26, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (in article<8da6hi9cea0prqu63c6bffl55b98koppcs@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 10:12:41 -0500, McLoon    
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 10:55:38 -0400   
   > > > > > > > > > > James   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Thus it doesn't seem likely that Jesus was married.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > The pertinent question to ponder is who is the bride of   
   Christ.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > We know the Watchtower is not his bride.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > The Bible (not men's teachings) holds out two possibilities   
   for   
   > > > > > > > > > humans   
   > > > > > > > > > for salvation. Life eternal in Heaven, and life eternal on a   
   paradise   
   > > > > > > > > > earth. For example referring to the later, Jesus said at Mt   
   5:5,   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth."   
   (NIV)   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > If all the good people are going to Heaven, who will be   
   around to   
   > > > > > > > > > "inherit the earth"?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Jesus also make a distinction between the two groups at Joh   
   10:16,   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must   
   bring them   
   > > > > > > > > > also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be   
   one flock   
   > > > > > > > > > and one shepherd." (NIV)   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Notice that Jesus has some sheep in his "sheep pen". Those   
   would be   
   > > > > > > > > > the people who will go to Heaven and be with Jesus. But he   
   also has   
   > > > > > > > > > "other sheep" who are not in that sheep pen. Those are the   
   ones who   
   > > > > > > > > > will inherit the earth, and live forever upon it. These are   
   the ones   
   > > > > > > > > > the Psalmist also refers to at Ps 37:29,   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they   
   will   
   > > > > > > > > > reside   
   > > > > > > > > > forever upon it." (NWT)   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > (many translations use the word "land" here instead of   
   "earth". But   
   > > > > > > > > > the Hebrew word used here is "erets" and can also mean   
   "earth".) For   
   > > > > > > > > > example, that same word is used at Ge 1:1 in the NIV Bible,   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth   
   [erets]"   
   > > > > > > > > > --brackets mine.)   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > So there are two groups of people who receive salvation. But   
   the   
   > > > > > > > > > group   
   > > > > > > > > > going to Heaven is limit in number to 144,000. (see Re 14:1;   
   7:4) And   
   > > > > > > > > > it is that group who is referred to as the bride of Christ.   
   Paul   
   > > > > > > > > > makes   
   > > > > > > > > > reference to that by his wording at 2 Co 11:2,   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > "I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you   
   to one   
   > > > > > > > > > husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure   
   virgin to   
   > > > > > > > > > him." (NIV)   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I hope this has helped somewhat, or has sparked some   
   interest to do   
   > > > > > > > > > more research, since there is a lot more that could be said   
   here.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Sincerely James   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > CAUTION !   
   > > > > > > > > Everything that James wrote here is new to the JW doctrines   
   and is   
   > > > > > > > > either   
   > > > > > > > > twisted/distorted and or flat out wrong.   
   > > > > > > > BEWARE!   
   > > > > > > > Of teachings and beliefs not in the Bible. Many of those are   
   demonic   
   > > > > > > > doctrines as mentioned at:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > 1 Timothy 4:1 NOW THE Spirit expressly says that in later times   
   some   
   > > > > > > > will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits   
   and   
   > > > > > > > doctrines of demons,   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Sincerely James   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > And you and the JW's fit the bill, fully.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- Living Bible   
   > > > > > Matthew 24:14 ``And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached   
   > > > > > throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it, and   
   > > > > > then, finally, the end will come.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > True Christians preach that good news.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Sincerely James   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Since you do not, then you do not fit the bill.   
   > > >   
   > > > Nice try, but I do.   
   > > >   
   > > > Do you even know what God's Kingdom is?   
   > >   
   > > Of course, for I dwell in it.   
   > >   
   > > I also posted fully about it in a post within the last few days. Did you   
   > > forget already?   
   >   
   > You've hammed and hauded, but never gave an answer. So I will ask   
   > again, what is God's Kingdom? (Mt 24:14)   
      
   What a lie.   
   Short story,   
   At this time his Kingdom is not of this world. Proof?   
      
   Joh 18:33-38   
      
   33 Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and   
   said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?   
      
   34 Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell   
   it thee of me?   
      
   35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have   
   delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?   
      
   36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of   
   this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to   
   the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.   
      
   37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou   
   sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I   
   into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is   
   of the truth heareth my voice.   
      
   38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went   
   out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.   
      
      
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