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   No one to James   
   Re: Have you seen a ghost?   
   09 Oct 23 16:34:15   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Oct 9, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<32o8iilin39pmcu40v0t9r7mr85olp2ise@4ax.com>):   
      
   > Have you seen a ghost? Many have. Want to know what it is?   
   > The Bible can tell you.   
   >   
   > A ghost is thought to be a returning dead person. BLEEP!!! Wrong. It   
   > can't be. Why? Because the Bible tells us the dead are non-existent.   
      
   Here are two stories in the Bible that disagree with your lies.   
      
   1Sa 28:10-20   
      
   10 And Saul sware to her by the LORD, saying, As the LORD liveth, there shall   
   no punishment happen to thee for this thing.   
      
   11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring   
   me up Samuel.   
      
   12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman   
   spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thouart Saul.   
      
   13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the   
   woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.   
      
   14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh   
   up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel,   
   and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.   
      
   15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And   
   Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me,   
   and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets,   
   nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto   
   me what I shall do.   
      
   16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is   
   departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?   
      
   17 And the LORD hath done to him, as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent   
   the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour,even to David:   
      
   18 Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his fierce   
   wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto thee this   
   day.   
      
   19 Moreover the LORD will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the   
   Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sonsbe with me: the LORD also   
   shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.   
      
   20 Then Saul fell straightway all along on the earth, and was sore afraid,   
   because of the words of Samuel: and there was no strength in him; for he had   
   eaten no bread all the day, nor all the night.   
      
   Jesus recounts the story of the rich man and the beggar man of their deaths   
   and what happened thereafter.   
      
   Luk 16:22-26   
      
   22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels   
   into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;   
      
   23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar   
   off, and Lazarus in his bosom.   
      
   24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus,   
   that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am   
   tormented in this flame.   
      
   25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy   
   good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and   
   thou art tormented.   
      
   26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so   
   that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to   
   us, that would come from thence.   
      
   There is a story of a man who was caught in the act of adultery by his wife.   
   He, like you, denied it all to his wife. You have had been given solid truths   
   in scriptures that you totally misunderstand the words spoken even what they   
   meant in their original language that gives greater depth of understanding to   
   those that hear it and listen to it.   
      
   Yet here you are, along with all the other JW's, speaking like the man caught   
   by his wife, who after a short argument he yelled at her , saying, "WHO ARE   
   YOU GOING TO BELIEVE!! ME OR YOUR LYING EYES"   
      
   People should stay far away from you all, lest they get infected with your   
   spiritual STD's.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > -- New King James   
   > Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die; but the dead   
   > know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is   
   > forgotten.   
   >   
   > "the dead know nothing".   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in   
   > that very day his thoughts perish.   
   >   
   > "his thoughts perish".   
   >   
   > Thus there is no consciousness with a dead person.That is why the   
   > Bible calls them being "asleep" (Mt 27:52, John 11:11)   
   >   
   > So when a ghost (also called spirit) claims to be the deceased aunt   
   > Milly, that is a big fat lie.   
   >   
   > Then who is the ghost? In the days of Noah, rebellious angels came to   
   > earth and had sex with females. This was not natural nor authorized by   
   > God. So they were kicked out of Heaven.   
   >   
   > So Ghosts are rebellious demons. They want to downgrade the Bible.   
   > They make you think the dead humans are still alive, contrary to the   
   > Bible's teachings. So don't be fooled by them. Stick to the Bible for   
   > your reality truths.   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
   > jw.org   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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