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   From: Robert@none.non   
      
   On Oct 12, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<7pufii1nkn7rccrlorpotjppni7rsteen3@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 08:12:45 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 3, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On 03 Oct 2023 17:20:56 GMT, servant wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > It is better to be in the truth then to swallow and repeat a lie.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Friend james can answer a question about the origin of the word "cross"   
   > > > > used in NT scripture:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > He said historically sometime later after the NT was written its shape   
   was   
   > > > > changed in meaning to the roman cross exicution device from greek   
   "pole".   
   > > > >   
   > > > > That explains why 99.99 percent of transilations use the word "cross"   
   to   
   > > > > mean the roman shape device instead of an erect greek pole .   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Friend james; let's test that theory, when was it "changed" and by   
   whom?   
   > > > > I'm not asking about the greek word for "pole"; just when the change in   
   > > > > meaning happend and who did it?   
   > > >   
   > > > It certainly happened before we got the oldest NT Greek Bible   
   > > > documents.   
   > > >   
   > > > It might have been influenced by the first profest Christian ruler   
   > > > Constantine the Great, History says that in 312 CE he had a vision of   
   > > > a fiery cross in the heavens. But I am just speculating.   
   > > >   
   > > > All I know is that the Bible word used in the NT that the churches   
   > > > translate as "cross" is "staurus" and it means a single pole.   
   > >   
   > > Then why are you always speaking of the cross. If you were right and   
   > > everyone   
   > > else including history is wrong, then you should be talking of Christ on a   
   > > stick, always.   
   >   
   > When that subject comes up about what instrument Jesus was impaled on,   
   > I say an upright pole (staurus)   
      
   You are sick, Jesus was never impaled on any pole.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > You claim all scripture is corrupted but yours, yet you use 'corrupted   
   > > scriptures' to make you points and support your dogma, what a hypocrite to   
   > > your   
   > > stated beliefs. Why do you not walk according to your beliefs? As we all   
   see   
   > > the JW as wolves in sheep's clothing.   
   >   
   > Actually they are a sheep in sheep's clothing.-   
      
   Of course you would say that, your definition of truth is what you think at the   
   moment.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > You claim to be Jehovahs witnesses, you claim that Jehovah and Jesus are   
   > > different, that one is a God the other is not. Yet you cannot shut up about   
   > > the man Jesus, and using him as the focus point of being a 'christian' and   
   > > thereby shunning Jehovah as you witness for Christ and HIS Kingdom.   
   >   
   > Actually you have no idea what you are talking about with JW's. They   
   > praise Jehovah day in and day out. They sanctify His NAME according to   
   > Jesus' model prayer. Do you?   
      
   Jesus said to "pray after this manner" he did not say to repeat the prayer like   
   the RCC does.   
      
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