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   Message 140,593 of 141,675   
   No one to James   
   Re: Corrected: Few will be saved (1/3)   
   13 Oct 23 00:15:44   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Oct 12, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<8r1gii5ktmohcalfdktf7vo60kemom4mfs@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 10:22:39 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 7, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 11:14:57 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Oct 4, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Tue, 03 Oct 2023 23:38:53 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Oct 3, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 12:59:58 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Oct 2, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 09:48:46 -0700, No one    
   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > On 29 Sep 2023 16:55:08 GMT, servant wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's help friend james here, who are the "saved"   
   who go by the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > narrow   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > path   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and narrow doar?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Romans   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the   
   Lord Jesus,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath   
   raised him from   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dead,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thou shalt be saved.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of   
   the Lord shall   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saved.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Friend james tries a slight of hand:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Confessing the Lord Jesus, and the name of the Lord   
   (God),   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > apparently   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > is only going to be a few: Mt 7:13,14,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, of whom is the above speaking? God raised   
   Christ bodily,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > calling   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > up on the name of Christ for thoe to be sqaved; when   
   both verses   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > are   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > onsidered. The jw vatican new this; that is why they   
   changed the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > ie.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Christ to "jehovah" in the 2nd verse to "fix"   
   scripture after the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > fact   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > conform to jw vatican invnted doctrines.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Only for readers of servant:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > First Rom 10:13 in the NWT:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > (Romans 10:13) For “everyone who calls on the name of   
   Jehovah   
   > > > > > > > > > > > will   
   > > > > > > > > > > > be   
   > > > > > > > > > > > saved.” (or Yahweh)   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Is the word "Jehovah" found in the NT Greek manuscripts   
   at Romans   
   > > > > > > > > > > > 10:13? No. But the oldest copies that we have is a   
   couple hundred   
   > > > > > > > > > > > after the writing.We don't have the originals.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Also Romans 10:13 is a QUOTE from Joel 2:32a,   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > -- Darby's Bible   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Joel 2:32a And it shall be that whosoever shall call   
   upon the name   
   > > > > > > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Jehovah shall be saved:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > (see also Young's Bible, America Standard, ASV, HCSB,   
   LSB, LEB,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > NOG,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > WEB, YLT)   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > In most cases the Bible distinguishes between Jehovah   
   and Jesus.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > But   
   > > > > > > > > > > > both are called "Lord" in the Bible.. A good translation   
   will   
   > > > > > > > > > > > distinguish between the two.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want to put one more pen in the jw vatican   
   baloon, Calling   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > upon   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > name of Christ is in fact calling upon God, Christ is   
   God.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus is a creation of God:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > -- Revised Standard   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > first-born   
   > > > > > > > > > > > of all creation;   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > The context around Col 1:15 is things CREATED. Such as   
   thrones,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > dominions, principalities, powers.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Don't be led astray by a twisting of the Scriptures.   
   Pray to God to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > give you the actual meaning of the Scriptures. He will   
   not let you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > down.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely James   
   > > > > > > > > > > James, they are one and the same. There is no distinction   
   as to who   
   > > > > > > > > > > they   
   > > > > > > > > > > are.   
   > > > > > > > > > > There is a distinction between Jesus and the Heavenly   
   Father, as   
   > > > > > > > > > > well   
   > > > > > > > > > > as   
   > > > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > Holy Spirit, yet they are all operating with one purpose,   
   and all of   
   > > > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > same   
   > > > > > > > > > > mind and attitude. They are the Godhead.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > The third century Trinity is not found in the Bible.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Who said it was??   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > The churches.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Not all, so why bring it up?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > It never hurts to bring up Bible truths.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Where does the Bible speak on the trinity?   
   > > >   
   > > > It doesn't.   
   > >   
   > > Again, then why bring it up?   
   >   
   > To expose the Devil's hold on the churches.As long as he does that, he   
   > draws people away from the true religion..   
   >   
   > Sincerely James   
      
   Not to witty, your religion/cult is as or more corrupt that others.   
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