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   Violates; Jw vatican zigzags on in name    
   17 Oct 23 16:59:43   
   
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   >>From jw vatican insiders, a brief outline on changes and jw vatican source   
   >>with citations of changes ; in the beginning for 80 years; any previously   
   >>baptised christian; in name of Father and Son and HS per Christ's   
   >>instruction.   
   >>   
   >>Then jw vatican re-baptism required: after 1955:   
   >>   
   >>   Baptism as a Christian in any religion, provided by full water   
   >>immersion. (What Pastor Russell Said pp.35,36)   
   >>   
   >   
   >>   1955 to 1985   
   >>   
   >   
   >>   Baptised by Watchtower Representative.   
   >>   To Father, Son and Holy Spirit.   
   >>   
   >   
   >>   1985 to 2019   
   >>   
   >   
   >>   Baptised by Watchtower Representative.   
   >>   To Father, Son and the spirit-directed Organization w85 6/1 p.30   
   >>   
   >   
   >>   2019 onwards   
   >>   
   >   
   >>   Baptised by Watchtower Representative.   
   >>   To Father and Son and Jehovah's Organisation. No mention of holy spirit.   
   >>ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS May 2019   
   >   
   >   
   >When baptized in the NAME of the Father? Is Jehovah or Yahweh said?   
   >   
   >When baptized in the NAME of the Holy Spirit, what name is said?   
      
   Sure, no problem; here is the usual jw vatican twist on scripture where   
   they go greek word meaning shopping.  As in english, a greek word can have   
   a range of uses and meanings.  Working backward the jw vatican picks the   
   one that best fits with their theology after the fact.  Here they pick from   
   a greek dictionary to produce:   
      
   "Therefore, Matt. 28:19 actually means: "baptizing them in recognition of   
   the " power [or the authority] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the   
   holy spirit."  "   
      
   So it makes no difference; name/authority does not change Christ's   
   instruction; the one the jw vatican clearly violates, no?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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