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   tesla sTinker ofm minim to All   
   Re: Back on path; Cross/pole in greek NT   
   27 Oct 23 15:19:33   
   
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   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: seaviews7@yahoo.com   
      
   On 10/26/2023 10:36 AM, servant scribbled:   
   > See friend james at his deceptive answering best below:   
   >   
   >>> Friend james got all in a frensy defending the jw vatican "impailement on   
   >>> tourture stake" from the jw vatican's nwt "transslation".  That was over   
   >>> the understanding of upright "pole" in the greek NT as the greek word to   
   >>> mean a roman cross as 2nd century christian greek authors described the   
   >>> upright structure as a "pole" with crossbr.   
   >>>   
   >>> So, can friend james apply the same wooden logic to the hebrew "red sea"   
   >>> for us when applied to Moses "crossing"?  Hours of searching the nw vatican   
   >>> "library" will now ensue.  Their crack hebrew scholars must have something;   
   >>> oh dear; we forgot they have *NO* scholars of greekor hebrew; so the   
   >>> "right" answer will be direct from the divine no doubt in a flash of "new   
   >>> light"?   
   >>   
   > Frend james tries his best, alas it doesn't float as is mpost often the   
   > case:   
   >>   
   >> No one knowledgeable in Hebrew or Greek?   
   >>   
   >> I have already given him MANY praises by Bible scholars on the NWT.   
   >   
   > That claim has *NOTHING* to do with the "red sea" question on the table.   
   > Oh how common has such deceptive tactics long been observed?   
   >   
   > Friend james, I have provided insider info multiple times from a jw leader   
   > of the time; that none of the 5 doing the translation had knowledge of 1st   
   > century greek or hebrew.   
   >   
   > It was not a "translation" but plagiarized translations of others with jw   
   > vatican "word/phrase fixes" here and there to justify backwards current   
   > invented doctrines.  If you don't have greek/hebrew; real "translation" is   
   > impossible.   
   >   
   > Now back to the question above; go for it friend james.   
      
      
   both the cross and the pole were used. This is fact, because both are   
   mentioned in the true Holy Bible, but at differ times of use.  The Bible   
   is about many periods of time, its not just about one time only.  Time   
   depicts origin,  where did it come from?   And of course,  James knows   
   nothing, and is not a minister or a priest.  Just a concocted selfish   
   religion of his own.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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