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From: none@none.con
On Nov 7, 2023, James wrote
(in article):
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2023 10:17:05 -0700, No one wrote:
>
> > On Nov 2, 2023, James wrote
> > (in article):
> >
> > > On Wed, 01 Nov 2023 17:21:43 -0700, No one wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jesus. The Anointed on, is God. Historically prophesied as God
descending
> > > > to earth, to be born of a virgin, conceived to the Holy Spirit of God,
as
> > > > prophesied in the OT. Coming with the sole purpose of fulfilling the
law
> > > > of sin and death, then to be sacrificed for all the sins of the people
who
> > > > then receive Him as their Lord and Saviour. He died that whosoever
would
> > > > believe upon him would be saved. Which is far different than just
believing that
> > > > he is God. Even Satan knew he was as he attempted to tempt him after
40 days
> > > > of fasting, when he was at his weakest humanly speaking.
> > >
> > > The Devil called him "a Son of God", not God. (Mt 4:1-6)
> > > You are the son of your father. Are you also your father? Neither is
> > > Jesus God.
> >
> > Again you speak with a false tongue.
> >
> > “Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a
> > pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast
> > thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning
> > thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou
dash
> > thy foot against a stone.” (Mat 4:5-6)
> >
> > He knew who Jesus was, yet he said "If thou be the Son of God" seeking to
> > create doubt as he knew that Jehovah had set aside his Glory and Power to
be
> > born a man, as prophesied.
> >
> > “Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord
> > thy God.” (Mat 4:7)
>
> My, how you twist things. I will try to straighten them out.
It is you who twists things.
>
>
> If Jehovah gave up His power, WHO RAN THE UNIVERSE? WHO HEARD ALL THE
> PRAYERS BEING SAID TO GOD? WHO TOOK CHARGE IN HEAVEN WHEN GOD WAS allegedly
GONE?
The Heavenly Father.
>
> Who said the Devil knew FOR SURE he was not the Son of God, but God
> Himself? There is no Bible text saying that at all. That is your pure
> speculation.
Jesus told him, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord they God". Satan knew who he
was, for that reason thousands of babies under the age of two were killed.
>
> Also, at Mt 4:7 Jesus referred to Mt 4:5,6, where GOD said He would
> send angels to protect him. So Jesus said not to tempt God.
Answer the question for yourself. Jesus made no secret of the Fact that he we
the "SON of GOD" His Heavenly Father. He told Martha that he was going to see
His God and her God. That he was doing the Work of His Heavenly Father.
You cannot understand these things because you have no part with Him. Whoever
denies Him he will deny them before His Heavenly Father.
>
> >
> > >
> > > God NEVER died (Ps 90:2), but Jesus did. (1 Thess 4:14) Therefore
> > > Jesus can't be God. How can you explain that? And there are a slew of
> > > other Scriptures that proves that Jesus is not God.
> >
> > John 10:17-18(KJV)
> >
> > 17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I
might
> > take it again.
> >
> > 18No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to
lay
> > it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I
received
> > of my Father.
> >
> > John 10:15(KJV)
> >
> > 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my
> > life for the sheep.
> >
> > This was speaking of his Body, since the spirit cannot cease to exist.
>
> Then where do animal spirits go to when they die? Ec 3:19,20,
>
> "19. For an event [is to] the sons of man, and an event [is to] the
> beasts, even one event [is] to them; as the death of this, so [is] the
> death of that; and one spirit [is] to all, and the advantage of man
> above the beast is nothing, for the whole [is] vanity.
> 20. The whole are going unto one place, the whole have been from the
> dust, and the whole are turning back unto the dust."
Because you misquote this here it is repeated and the third verse answered
your question.
Just like the last time you brought this up.
Ecc 3:19-21
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing
befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one
breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the
beast that goeth downward to the earth?
Obviously, you do not know, yet you claim to believe ALL the Bible.
>
> > For this reason a man without God will dwell the the Lake of Fire and
Brimstone
> > to be tortured according to his level of sin, while the Redeemed ones will
> > dwell with God for ever and ever.
>
> Then who are these people Jesus talked about?
>
>
> -- King James
> Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
They are Godly People, these are the ones who have their names written in the
"Book of Life".
>
> TORTURE. Let's see Satan does torture. The demons do torture. Hitler
> did torture. Jack the Ripper did torture. Jeffrey Dahmer did torture.
> John Wayne Gacy did torture. Ted Bundy did torture. Jehovah does
> torture??? Look at the crowd of persons He is grouped with!!! For
> shame accusing God of such sadism.
Your torture will come prom two places, one being your personal knowledge of
the sins you committed which will haunt you forever and ever, according to
your deeds. Two being the demons of hell who will taunt and torture you as
you did to others by your sins, and in part because you were created in the
Likeness of God, "On His Image" and so they will take out their hatred on you
as well.
>
> I have written about it extensively: THERE IS NO HELLFIRE. THERE IS
> NO HELLFIRE. THERE IS NO HELLFIRE.
> There really isn't. The Bible uses fire to symbolize complete destruction,
not living torture,
Yet you have been shown very many scriptures that what you claim, is a total
lie. That also includes the story that Jesus Told about the rich man in
heaven, and Lazarus. That the rich man begged for a drop of water on his
tongue due to the heat there.
And think about it, Jesus Died caring for you, bearing your sins, he was
tortured for you that you might ask and receive eternal life, Yet you spit on
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