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   No one to James   
   Re: 3rd request: Still waiting; Churches   
   12 Nov 23 15:57:20   
   
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   From: none@none.con   
      
   On Nov 12, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article<2vh1li5emp32jhtejv716ogcf2tqiuc6l7@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:31:57 -0800, No one  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Nov 11, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article<0p3vki94qqd1grufkkglajfbgaaa5jidj9@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > James,   
   > > > Earth is here   
   > > > FOREVER,   
   > >   
   > > “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the   
   > > first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” (Rev 21:1)   
   >   
   > Apparently you didn't go to jw.org to see the proof.   
      
   The proof is in the Bible, both the Old and the New testaments, so why would   
   I go to a web site of confusion?   
   >   
   >   
   > Many people and the churches mistakingly take the highly symbolic book   
   > of Revelation 21:1 as literal. It talks about dragons and beasts with   
   > multiple heads etc. But I am sure you don't take them literal also.   
      
   I take them in the context that they were written in. Scriptural Context.   
   >   
   >   
   > And what to you is that "new heaven"? Is that where God resides? If   
   > so, why would He destroy His own 'house'?''   
      
   That shows your ignorance of the creation as described in scripture. Your   
   false assumptions that you no doubt would excuse away as an opinion.   
      
   God resides now as he always has and will be. If I told you the truth of Gods   
   word as I have many times, what good will it do you when you reject it out of   
   hand, like you do regarding Jesus being God?   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > This earth will be post toasties.   
   >   
   > And when the earth becomes "post toasties", where are you and all the   
   > others going to be?   
      
   The believers will be wherever Jesus is, in heaven. If course you have no   
   understanding of that and try to teach others out of your confusion and lack   
   of understanding. Which is because you know not the Son of God, nor His   
   Father.   
   >   
   >   
   > No, according to the Bible, the literal earth is going nowhere.   
      
   You should have read the verses following before you said that.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Isaiah 65:17-19   
   > >   
   > > 17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall   
   > > not be remembered, nor come into mind.   
   > >   
   > > 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold,   
   > > I   
   > > create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.   
   > >   
   > > 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of   
   > > weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.   
   > >   
   > > Isaiah 66:22   
   > >   
   > > 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall   
   remain   
   > > before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.   
   >   
   > To repeat, the literal planet is here to stay forever. Seriously   
   > consider the following:   
      
   So then you admit to not believing ALL the Bible like you falsely claimed.   
   >   
   >   
   > Ps 104:5,   
   >   
   > "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed   
   > for ever." (KJV)   
   >   
   > Also Ec 1:4,   
   >   
   > "Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever."   
   > (NIV)   
   >   
   > Ps 78:69,   
   >   
   > " He built his shrine like the heavens, like the earth which he   
   > founded forever. " (NAB)   
   >   
   > And Ps 119:90,   
   >   
   > “Through all generations your truth endures; fixed to stand firm like   
   > the earth.“ (NAB)   
      
   All the verses you quoted, you had to jump through translations to try and   
   fit them together, but in each case Forever, did not mean what you took it to   
   mean. Proper translated it was for the all the related or associated period   
   of time , not eternally.   
   >   
   >   
   > If you want to know what the symbolic statement of Rev 21:1 from this   
   > highly symbolic book means, just ask.   
      
   Sorry, but you have already proven your failure at understanding.   
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James,   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Jesus is LORD YHWH   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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