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   Message 140,765 of 141,674   
   Michael Christ to James   
   Re: JW do not believe that Jesus IS God,   
   14 Nov 23 10:33:47   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 14/11/2023 2:06 am, James wrote:   
   > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:14:42 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/11/2023 9:58 am, No one wrote:   
   >>> On Nov 9, 2023, James wrote   
   >>> (in article<0o9oki5p8fr4jacolgcchmpbsc2tveio1c@4ax.com>):   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 22:44:55 -0800, No one  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Nov 7, 2023, James wrote   
   >>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2023 10:17:05 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2023, James wrote   
   >>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2023 17:21:43 -0700, No one  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Jesus. The Anointed on, is God. Historically prophesied as God   
   >>>>>>>>> descending   
   >>>>>>>>> to earth, to be born of a virgin, conceived to the Holy Spirit of   
   God,   
   >>>>>>>>> as   
   >>>>>>>>> prophesied in the OT. Coming with the sole purpose of fulfilling the   
   law   
   >>>>>>>>> of sin and death, then to be sacrificed for all the sins of the   
   people   
   >>>>>>>>> who   
   >>>>>>>>> then receive Him as their Lord and Saviour. He died that whosoever   
   would   
   >>>>>>>>> believe upon him would be saved. Which is far different than just   
   >>>>>>>>> believing that   
   >>>>>>>>> he is God. Even Satan knew he was as he attempted to tempt him after   
   40   
   >>>>>>>>> days   
   >>>>>>>>> of fasting, when he was at his weakest humanly speaking.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The Devil called him "a Son of God", not God. (Mt 4:1-6)   
   >>>>>>>> You are the son of your father. Are you also your father? Neither is   
   >>>>>>>> Jesus God.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Again you speak with a false tongue.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> “Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on   
   a   
   >>>>>>> pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God,   
   >>>>>>> cast   
   >>>>>>> thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge   
   >>>>>>> concerning   
   >>>>>>> thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou   
   >>>>>>> dash   
   >>>>>>> thy foot against a stone.” (Mat 4:5-6)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> He knew who Jesus was, yet he said "If thou be the Son of God" seeking   
   to   
   >>>>>>> create doubt as he knew that Jehovah had set aside his Glory and Power   
   to   
   >>>>>>> be   
   >>>>>>> born a man, as prophesied.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> “Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the   
   Lord   
   >>>>>>> thy God.” (Mat 4:7)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> My, how you twist things. I will try to straighten them out.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It is you who twists things.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Then the Bible twists things, since that is my source of truths.   
   >>>   
   >>> God is the source of Truth, His Spirit the transmitter of His truth to men,   
   >>> as needed.   
      
   Michael Christ wrote:   
   >> And when isn't He?   
      
   "Non-opposer sinner" James the self-anointed righteous, wrote:   
   > God withholds His Spirit to apostates and opposers etc.   
      
   You mean sinners?  :-).   
      
   > But if they   
   > have a change of heart, He helps them.   
      
   You mean sinners?   
      
   > And one way is to bring to the   
   > person spiritually qualified persons to teach them God's word. (recall   
   > the Ethiopian traveling and reading the book of Isaiah)   
   >   
   > Sincerely James,   
      
   Wrong context.  He is not a respecter of persons.   
      
   Be quiet, James.  A sinner residing in his sinful state is not sincere   
   in anything.   
      
      
      
      
      
   Michael Christ   
      
   --   
   Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.   
      
   Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were   
   YET sinners, Christ died for us.   
      
   Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it   
   is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.   
      
   Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt   
   are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.   
      
   Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that   
   hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.   
      
   "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."   
      
   "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."   
      
   "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."   
      
   "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving   
   God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,   
   sin is not what you do; it is what you are."   
      
   "Compromise will condemn you."   
      
   "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."   
      
   "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."   
      
   "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to   
   know that?"   
      
   "The way of truth is the testimony of life."   
      
   "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall   
   where God intends."   
      
   "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."   
      
   "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all   
   live, by faith."   
      
   "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."   
      
   "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look   
   ahead."   
      
   "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."   
      
   "Priority is everything."   
      
   "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."   
      
   "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander   
   it or to place it where it truly belongs."   
      
   "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."   
      
   "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to   
   an ignorant straw man."   
      
   "Wait, rest, be still, and know."   
      
   "No man can wash his own hands!!!"   
      
   "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,   
   and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."   
      
   The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the   
   obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"   
      
   "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."   
      
   "Man is not the centre of being."   
      
   "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."   
      
   "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."   
      
   "Man has no greater idol than his own will."   
      
   "Where is God hiding? He isn't."   
      
   "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."   
      
   "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's   
   willingness to believe."   
      
   "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,   
   and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."   
      
   "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always   
   full of hope."   
      
   "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass   
   through it so that you could play God."   
      
      
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