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   From: robert@no.way   
      
   On Nov 18, 2023, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:12:09 -0800, Robert  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Nov 12, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article<7cj1li5qlk6j7ml6ldj5qbf5ofp1oe0s05@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > On 01 Nov 2023 16:54:24 GMT, anonymous@nowhere.you.know wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > > For those unaware; a pinata is a practice originating in latin   
   america   
   > > > > > > > > for   
   > > > > > > > > kids entertainment.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > A paper container full of toys and sweets is held above the   
   heads of a   
   > > > > > > > > group of children. They hit it with sticks until it bursts and   
   the   
   > > > > > > > > kids   
   > > > > > > > > scramble to get the contents. This practice is now also common   
   at   
   > > > > > > > > non-latin n. america children's events.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Friend james can help us here; does the jw vatican approve of   
   this   
   > > > > > > > > traditional latin american practice used at children's   
   celebrations?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Friend james confesses:>   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > I have no idea. Go to them at jw.org to inquire.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Ah; perhaps the jw vatican sources use the alterntive spelling "pi   
   ta"   
   > > > > > > that   
   > > > > > > explains his fialed "research"? Or perhaps at the local "hall" it   
   is no   
   > > > > > > longer an issue. In past the answer was don't do it because of   
   rcc/ and   
   > > > > > > local traditional native american religious connections.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > A few years ago that was changed. If a current practice no longer   
   > > > > > > includes   
   > > > > > > "pagan" religious elements; then go for it if you wish.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Hmm, then applying the same idea for birthdays/mother's days and   
   other   
   > > > > > > observation/celebrations without "pagan" religious ideas   
   mentioned; now   
   > > > > > > have a "go for it if you wish" with a jw vatican blessing, no?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Friend james finds comfort in ignorance. All along he could have been   
   > > > > having various holidays and celebrations with the jw vatican's   
   blessing.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > They said for ancient practices all is fine now because modern uses   
   have   
   > > > > no   
   > > > > unacceptable content and a jw devotee should feel free to do it if they   
   > > > > choose.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Like I said before, I know nothing about it, pagan or otherwise.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Ah; ignorance is bliss; no?   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, ignorance of the truth is bliss, right?   
   > > >   
   > > > Concerning Christmas, show me in the Bible when Jesus had his apostles   
   > > > and followers, where they celebrated his birthday. Please show me.   
   > > > They mentioned all kinds of important celebrations like the Passover,   
   > > > why not the birth of the Son of God? Why?   
   > > >   
   > > > So, why didn't God tell us the date he was born? There is no way to   
   > > > figure it out. Why? If Christmas is such an important day today, why   
   > > > no record of the date? Why? And what does Santa Clause and all the   
   > > > Christmas adornments have to do with Jesus birth?   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, ignorance of the truth is bliss, right?   
   > >   
   > > Evidently for you that is true. :(   
   >   
   > Not for me, but for the Bible, since that is the source of all my   
   > religious doctrines.   
   >   
   > I challenge you to show me a JW doctrine that is NOT from the Bible.   
      
   The Doctrine of the 144 thousand.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Had you studied the Bible you could find out when he was born, not to the   
   > > day, but to the season and possibly the month.   
   >   
   > The shepherds were LIVING outdoors, so it would not be December.   
   > The wise men (Greek, "magoi"; actually they were pagan astrologers.   
   > See what God thinks of astrologers at De 18:10-12 and Isa 47:13,14.   
      
   SO you do not know? It is as I expected.   
   >   
   >   
   > Those astrologers visited the young CHILD in a house, not a baby in a   
   > manger. That may not sell nativity scenes, but it is Bible TRUTH.   
   > >   
   > > Yet that would not stop your chosen ignorance of scripture, since you   
   > > believe   
   > > your cult over the Bible just as you did when you were in the RCC.   
   >   
   > Wrong again! All JW's ONLY go by the Bible. The RCC is a whole other   
   > can of worms.   
      
   They were your past. The JW’s go by what their leaders feed them, that is   
   why their doctrines change endlessly. Everyone knows that.   
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James,   
   > Why do humans   
   > injure each other?   
   > Go to jw.org   
   > 11/18/23   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Sincerely James,   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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