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   From: seaviews7@yahoo.com   
      
   On 11/17/2023 11:38 AM, servant scribbled:   
   >>>> "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to   
   >>>> His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the   
   >>>> resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance   
   >>> incorruptible   
   >>>> and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who   
   >>>> are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be   
   >>>> revealed in the last time."  1 Peter 1:3-5   
   >>>   
   >>> Also, given the details given by John in REv. about the 144 k;  can that jw   
   >>> theory be supported and how so?   
   >>   
   >   
   > Friend james responds, the expected non- response ensues:   
   >   
   >> See the details above.   
   >   
   > Hmm, not one mention of an inclusive jw vatican defined 144 k in any   
   > detail.  Peter instead uses the exspansive pronouns "our/you" to define his   
   > intended audience of believers, no?  The jw vatican invented theory of whom   
   > the 144 k are cann't force a "round peg in squarehole" in Peter's language.   
   >   
   > What are John's well defined specific details for the 1444 k in REv.   
   In the Apocalypse,  John speaks of possibly differ 144 thousands.  The   
   first verse, and second verse,  it declares the name of the father would   
   be in the forehead.  Because it says this, it would be speaking of a   
   group, that does not go up to heaven.  The reason is, because of what it   
   says in the later part of the same chapter at verse @9, 9 "And the third   
   angel followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man shall adore   
   the beast and his image, and receive his character in his forehead, or   
   in his hand; 10 He also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,   
   which is mingled with pure wine in the cup of his wrath, and shall be   
   tormented with fire and brimstone in the sight of the holy angels, and   
   in the sight of the Lamb."   
      
   It is specific,  but there is a problem, it says "on" in english, in the   
   first verse, but the latin copy does not do so, its specific and it says   
   "in."   Which certainly, is a differ meaning.   
      
   Now the facts are correct about the computer.  It is also mentioned   
   inside the apocalypse yes.  And so is the mark of the beast.  666.  The   
   second verse is also clear,  a noise from heaven  noise of many waters,   
     as the voice of great thunder.  So, we know this angel, is of God.   
   This can be a differ and is likley, differ set of a group, but Same   
   amount,  but not the same people if it is people.  For its also a   
   measure, and the Holy Bible says this about this specific number.   The   
   latin means alot,  So I stress the word "in" inside the latin text,  as   
   to mean, inside the forehead.  Not its fact already, some stupid idiots   
   out there are putting a chip inside their hand to pay for goods at the   
   scanners inside the stores.  But they have to be chip scanners, or, it   
   can mean, the scanners that scan credit cards that have the three 6s in   
   the bar code on the card, or a number that is not visible.  I would have   
   to say, either will send you to hell yes.   Anyone can de code the bar   
   codes to see if yours has this mark on it or not.  IF you love God, you   
   would cease to use it once you find out it does, because of what all of   
   His true Holy Bible says,  but the amount, the 144, yes, is very   
   questionable, as there is more literature to this amount, and what it   
   really means.  It takes quite a bit to interpret it all correctly, yet,   
   the canticle that is sung, is definite the canticle of Moses yes. verse   
   11 is   
   specific, it states, the smoke of their torments, shall ascend up   
   forever.  And this means, they do not come back from hell ever, they   
   stay there forever.  Yes, because the latin says with the word quote IE   
     "in"  it means, they believe in using this mark to purchase goods and   
   may even get a chip in their head, as this military of today, is now   
   using chips in their heads of the  pilots that fly their military mach   
   machines of aircraft with, because they need to react much faster to win   
   with all those fancy weapons including the laser guided attacks.   
      
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