XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
      
   The jw vatican has a two class system for those to have eternal life.  The   
   144 k are in heaven alone; they are "anointed" since the time of Christ and   
   will rule over earth for eternity .  All other 2nd class jw will only have   
   eternal life on erth.   
      
   Revelation is the only mention of the 144 k.  It describes exactly who   
   they are; only virgin jewish men.   
      
   What to do cry the jw vatican, ah yes; along with much of the book it is   
   only symbolic when speaking of the virgin jewish men.  That now allows the   
   jw vatican to pour backward their own doctrine 1930 years later to fill the   
   144 k with jw "anointed" born before 1914.  .   
      
   But wait; why isn't the 144 k count also not symbolic?  Easy, it isn't   
   because it has to hold the very modern idea of the 2 class jw vatican   
   system invented mostly by one man 1930 years later All other jw do not go   
   to heaven but remain on earth as the "great multitude" ruled by the 144 k   
   first class jw "anointed".   
      
   But wait, there is another fly in the jw vatican's ointment and self   
   serving self glory scheme .  The "great multitues" is recorded being in   
   heaven alongside the 144 k and refutes the jw vatican 2 class scheme?.   
      
   "No" cry the jw vatican; the "great multitude". is not in heaven but only   
   mentioned as a group seperate from the 144 k eterneral rlers of those on   
   earth; so they cann't also be in heaven.  Really:   
      
   Revelation   
      
   7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could   
   number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before   
   the throne, and before the Lamb ...   
      
   7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and   
   night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among   
   them.   
      
   Oh dear; poof goes the self serving self glory 2 class system.  Both groups   
   were seen by John in heaven side by side and there was no mention of the   
   144 k ruling over the "great multitude"; indeed they stood equal before the   
   throne of God. .  No where is it said they were later taken back to earth   
   to be ruled by the 144 k.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)