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   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 1/01/2024 4:30 am, James wrote:   
   > On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 07:48:12 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 27/12/2023 3:14 am, James wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 08:15:52 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 25/12/2023 3:10 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 08:38:07 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 21/12/2023 4:40 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 15:38:20 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 13/12/2023 11:53 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 07:37:32 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2023 1:06 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:21:31 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Your doctrines have not transformed you into righteousness, Sinner   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> James, and they never will.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Since they all only come from the Bible, don't be so sure of that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Your doctrines have not transformed you into righteousness, Sinner   
   >>>>>>>>>> James.  True or false?  "Be honest."   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Doctrines do not make a man righteous, the Lord Jesus Christ in   
   Person   
   >>>>>>>>>> does.  The Lord Jesus Christ alone is the Saviour.  God alone is the   
   >>>>>>>>>> Saviour, not your doctrines.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What do you think Bible doctrines are? They are as if God or Jesus   
   was   
   >>>>>>>>> speaking directly to us. Just believing they exist is good, but   
   >>>>>>>>> hearing them speak and guide us is much better.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>       From the JW.org website...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "By the end of his life on earth, Jesus had made a good name with   
   God."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> But just look at the subtlety of lukewarm sinners at work!  Jesus   
   HAD a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> good name with His Father (Of course, Jesus is of His   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit)..."Mat_17:5  While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which   
   said, This   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> But it is not what they mean above.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Notice, that was before the crucifixion, from the beginning, not   
   by the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> end that the JW doctrine infers, having worked for His value!   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> James the disobeying sinner advises:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You are not making any sense to me. What doctrine of inference?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You ignore the truth and try to find an obfuscation hole to hide in.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Obfuscation= making things unclear.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> "By the end of his life on earth, Jesus had made a good name with   
   God."   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> A lie.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Where did you get that quote from?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The Lord Jesus did not make a good name for Himself; He had a good   
   name   
   >>>>>>>>>> yesterday, He has a good name today, and He will forever have a good   
   >>>>>>>>>> name.  "Good" does not change; God does not change.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What you are not seeing with me it is not about "right or wrong"   
   >>>>>>>>>> doctrines, silly arguments about theology, it is about the   
   passionate truth.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You speak a lot of opinions, I speak a lot of Bible truths. That's   
   >>>>>>>>> where we differ.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> My Lord is good, He didn't make a good name for Himself thereby   
   becoming   
   >>>>>>>>>> good.  Your sin is subtle (taking what is not true and trying to   
   make it   
   >>>>>>>>>> the truth), as it has been from the beginning.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> More opinions as usual.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh how subtle evil is.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And so what do their ways reveal and announce?  That you work in   
   your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful state for your value (make a good name for your self).   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Insidious.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I am doing nothing of the sort. I only want to share Bible   
   knowledge.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You share the JW sinner imperfect, bible interpretations, and   
   doctrines   
   >>>>>>>>>> of flawed sinful men.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Opinion.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that!  :-).  Thanks a lot!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You are welcome for whatever you are thanking me for.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> When you stand before the Lord, He'll be real appreciative of that!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Another opinion.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> But here is the thing: what do the stereotypical mainstream   
   religions   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> really boil down to—anything different? I'll leave that with   
   you.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The mainstream religions lay stagnated in unscriptural doctrines,   
   such   
   >>>>>>>>>>> as hellfire, Trinity, Jesus is God, Purgatory, people live on   
   right at   
   >>>>>>>>>>> death, Limbo, support the wars of this world, celebrations of pagan   
   >>>>>>>>>>> holidays such as Halloween, all good people go to Heaven, people   
   have   
   >>>>>>>>>>> an immortal soul, etc, etc.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Even if all you say about them was true, how does that make you a   
   better   
   >>>>>>>>>> sinner?  A better whore?  A better liar?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Those do not. But knowing those false church doctrines can help   
   >>>>>>>>> improve ones spirituality. (Pr 4:18)   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> All religious sinners have sinner doctrines.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> That is why they sin.  Your church is no different.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The Bible again, says all people sin. Do you believe this?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Now just for the moment say all the above is the TRUTH against the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Bible (which it is). Would you support the churches? Be honest.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I am not a part of any of the churches of men.  The Lord brought me   
   >>>>>>>>>> through and out a long time ago.  Sadly, I dusted off my feet.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You can't get a silk purse out of a sow's ear and you can't get   
   change   
   >>>>>>>>> >from those who do not want to change, who seek to justify   
   themselves as   
   >>>>>>>>>> they are.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Know anyone like that?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Since you asked, yes, I am talking to him.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
      
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