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   From: robert@no.way   
      
   On Jan 11, 2024, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:43:04 -0800, Robert  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Dec 31, 2023, James wrote   
   > > (in article<30r2pi5u431rkqefq2h95i4r6iniu072ap@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:50:00 -0800, Robert  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Dec 29, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 18:39:59 -0800, Robert  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2023, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On 28 Dec 2023 01:21:57 GMT, servant wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Friend james how does the jw vatican commemorate/celebrate   
   Christ'   
   > > > > > > > > > > birth   
   > > > > > > > > > > by   
   > > > > > > > > > > way of the HS and Mary,ie. the Word becoming flesh to   
   dwell among   
   > > > > > > > > > > us?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > We follow the examples of Jesus' apostles and Paul in the   
   Bible.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Very good; it is the same apostles who make a very big deal   
   about His   
   > > > > > > > > coming. Btw; observing holidays/feasts is as common as dirt in   
   the NT.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > To answer on friend james' behalf what he ignored; the jw   
   vatican   
   > > > > > > > > unlike   
   > > > > > > > > the apostles act as though His birth was a mere bit of filler   
   material   
   > > > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > > > the NT deserving no observation/commemeration..   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > For Christmas celebrations, JW's follow all the NT where all of   
   Jesus'   
   > > > > > > > followers gave us their examples on celebrating his birth. THEY   
   > > > > > > > DIDN'T.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Zero, null, nothing, 0, nought, nil, zilch, nowt, none, nix,   
   nada,   
   > > > > > > > zip.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > The archangels and the heavenly hosts did, as well as the   
   shepherds,   
   > > > > > > family,   
   > > > > > > etc.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > To my knowledge, the shepherds were not Jesus' followers yet. They   
   > > > > > apparently didn't even know about the birth until an angel announced   
   > > > > > it.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > They were, like many Jews, expecting the Messiah that was prophesied,   
   and   
   > > > > they were looking forward to it.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's true. Jesus set a lot of examples for us to follow. The   
   > > > shepherds did not see those examples at that time. They came later.   
   > >   
   > > They had been given direct proof of who He was and is, from the Heavenly   
   > > Father directly as delivered but the Angels. They believed.   
   >   
   > Yes, but they were not FOLLOWERS of Jesus yet. At that point, Jesus   
   > was just a baby.   
      
   They were under the old covenant, as were all Jews. They had faith in God, so   
   what is your point? They would all end up in Heaven if they died before   
   Christ was resurrected.   
   >   
   >   
   > Sincerely James,   
      
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