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   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 15/01/2024 8:07 am, James wrote:   
   > On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 08:22:55 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 4/01/2024 7:11 am, James wrote:   
   >>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 09:23:18 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> You are too content in your state of constantly sinning religion, Sinner   
   >>>> James.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You better be on your way.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Hopefully we are on our way for life eternal. But it is hard to walk   
   >>> as the path is very narrow and cramped.   
   >>> On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:55:47 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 30/12/2023 8:45 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 07:58:41 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 27/12/2023 7:18 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 06:13:25 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 20/11/2023 2:51 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 08:16:43 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> ...is not God.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you can't get that, then you are an unbeliever, no matter how   
   many   
   >>>>>>>>>> bible verses you quote.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Sinner James still trying to stubbornly sinfully promote his sinner   
   >>>>>>>> bible interpretations as though there is no flaw in him, no account of   
   >>>>>>>> imperfection in him, and writes:   
   >>>>>>>>> Then that means you don't take the Scriptures seriously. Like this   
   one   
   >>>>>>>>> which comments on your statement about randomness:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> -- New King James   
   >>>>>>>>> Ecclesiastes 9:11  I returned and saw under the sun that The race is   
   >>>>>>>>> not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the   
   wise,   
   >>>>>>>>> nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of skill; but   
   >>>>>>>>> time and chance happen to them all.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes, by ignoring this inspired Scripture (2 Tim 3:16), you can   
   >>>>>>>>> continue in your own beliefs.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 2 Tim 3:16 so that what?  To what end?  2 Tim 3:SEVENTEEN.  It does   
   not   
   >>>>>>>> say a man must be endlessly half-way housed in endlessly being   
   reproved,   
   >>>>>>>> indoctrinated, corrected, instructed in righteousness; the Holy Spirit   
   >>>>>>>> comes and dwells in a man once he has been.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You are not made perfect in understanding, Sinner.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Hear, Sinner............   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Time and chance is subject to God; God is not subject to time and   
   chance.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "If anything is random, then God is not God."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Then God lied at Ec 9:11?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> A silly thing to say.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yes, yours is. (:>(   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Solomon is not God.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Why not. False religions make up all kinds of things.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     >It is bible allegory, contrast if you will.   
   >>>>>> Solomon is speaking about himself, he is not calling himself God.  "I   
   >>>>>> returned (to a [my] starting point)..."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> He is calling himself random "chance"? No, he is stating that random   
   >>>>> chance happens. Notice again:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> -- New King James   
   >>>>> Ecclesiastes 9:11  I returned and saw under the sun that The race is   
   >>>>> not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise,   
   >>>>> nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of skill; but   
   >>>>> time and chance happen to them all.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> -- American Standard   
   >>>>> Ecclesiastes 9:11  I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is   
   >>>>> not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to   
   >>>>> the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men   
   >>>>> of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> -- Living Bible   
   >>>>> Ecclesiastes 9:11  Again I looked throughout the earth and saw that   
   >>>>> the swiftest person does not always win the race, nor the strongest   
   >>>>> man the battle, and that wise men are often poor, and skillful men are   
   >>>>> not necessarily famous; but it is all by chance, by happening to be at   
   >>>>> the right place at the right time.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Sorry, I can't accept that.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What?  Truth is subject to your "constantly sinning" perception?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yes, just like Paul, the 12 apostles, and all of Jesus other   
   >>>>> followers. They were all "constantly sinning".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> God is God, Buddy, and there is nothing higher than Him...not even you.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But you didn't eliminate yourself. Why??   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Sincerely James,   
   >>>>> 2023: Why so   
   >>>>> many problems?   
   >>>>> Go to jw.org   
   >>>>> 12/29/23	   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There is nothing random in the universe.  If there was God is not God.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I know it doesn't register in your constantly sinning interpretation of   
   >>>> the scriptures, but that is too bad.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I suggest you become a believer, otherwise random might get you!  :-).   
   >>>   
   >>> There is DEFINETLY randomness in the universe. You probably believe   
   >>> God knows ALL things, all the time. But that is not what the Bible   
   >>> teaches. God at times CHOOSES not to know things. It's up to Him.   
   >>> Notice very carefully: (if I knew what Bible you used, I would quote   
   >>> from it)   
   >>>   
   >>> Gen 18: 20,21,   
   >>> 20.  And the Lord said, "Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah   
   >>> is great, and because their sin is very grave,   
   >>>    21.  "I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether   
   >>> according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I   
   >>> will know.''   
   >>>   
   >>> Since God at that time DID NOT KNOW those things, random chance was   
   >>> occurring.   
   >>>   
   >>> On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:55:47 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 30/12/2023 8:45 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 07:58:41 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 27/12/2023 7:18 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 06:13:25 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 20/11/2023 2:51 am, James wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 08:16:43 +1100, Michael Christ   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> ...is not God.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you can't get that, then you are an unbeliever, no matter how   
   many   
   >>>>>>>>>> bible verses you quote.   
   >>>>>>>>   
      
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