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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com
On 18/01/2024 7:20 am, James wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 15:31:16 +1100, Michael Christ
> wrote:
>
>> On 16/01/2024 12:18 pm, James wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 08:24:56 +1100, Michael Christ
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/01/2024 5:40 am, James wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 10:34:46 +1100, Michael Christ
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/01/2024 12:30 am, James wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:50:00 -0800, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2023, James wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 18:39:59 -0800, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2023, James wrote
>>>>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Dec 2023 01:21:57 GMT, servant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Friend james how does the jw vatican commemorate/celebrate
Christ' birth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way of the HS and Mary,ie. the Word becoming flesh to dwell
among us?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We follow the examples of Jesus' apostles and Paul in the Bible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good; it is the same apostles who make a very big deal about
His
>>>>>>>>>>>> coming. Btw; observing holidays/feasts is as common as dirt in
the NT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To answer on friend james' behalf what he ignored; the jw vatican
unlike
>>>>>>>>>>>> the apostles act as though His birth was a mere bit of filler
material in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the NT deserving no observation/commemeration..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For Christmas celebrations, JW's follow all the NT where all of
Jesus'
>>>>>>>>>>> followers gave us their examples on celebrating his birth. THEY
>>>>>>>>>>> DIDN'T.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Zero, null, nothing, 0, nought, nil, zilch, nowt, none, nix, nada,
>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The archangels and the heavenly hosts did, as well as the
shepherds, family,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To my knowledge, the shepherds were not Jesus' followers yet. They
>>>>>>>>> apparently didn't even know about the birth until an angel announced
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They were, like many Jews, expecting the Messiah that was prophesied,
and
>>>>>>>> they were looking forward to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's true. Jesus set a lot of examples for us to follow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Lord Jesus did not set a lot of examples for people to follow and
>>>>>> then leave it to you to play God. That is false religion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, your comment is a false comment. Jesus did set many good
>>>>> examples for us to use:
>>>>>
>>>>> (1 Peter 2:21) In fact, to this course you were called, because even
>>>>> Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow his steps
>>>>> closely.
>>>>
>>>> 1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered
>>>> for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
>>>>
>>>> That means follow Him, not your own will through the bible in your
>>>> constantly sinning, James.
>>>
>>> Actually, you are misinterpreting again like the Scribes and
>>> Pharisees. If you were to follow Jesus example perfectly, you would be
>>> able to heal sick people and even raise the dead. You can't do that,
>>> can you?
>>>
>>> Peter meant to DO WHAT YOU CAN using your own will, to follow Jesus'
>>> steps.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -- Revised Standard
>>>>> John 13:15 For I have given you an example, that you also should do
>>>>> as I have done to you.
>>>>
>>>> And who do you serve in your constantly sinning?
>>>
>>> And you don't constantly sin? If so, you would be the 4th person on
>>> earth who was perfect and never sin. Are you?
>>
>> You can't hide behind accusing your neighbour, Buddy. "And who do you
>> serve in your constantly sinning?"
>
> If you are the 4th perfect person ever to step on this planet,
> congratulations. (and pigs can fly)
Every son of God is dead to sin (crucified) and alive in Christ Jesus
(the few).
They are saved, out of this world, and safe in heavenly places in Christ
Jesus - in Him, in Christ Jesus, where there is no darkness at all.
They love the Lord their God with all their heart, soul, and mind, but
people like you love yourselves and your pathetic sinner theology.
Sin is whoredom (an abomination) and you don't believe God is able to
deliver. Sin is nothing to you but a bug on your windscreen.
THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM!
Your sinful state should wreck you, drive you to despair, make you cry
out with all your heart, telling God you can't go on with this cancer!
But you, you walk around with your bible in your hand with your nose in
the air with pride.
You make me sick; I want to vomit you out.
>> Every son of God is dead to sin (crucified) and alive in Christ Jesus.
>
> Dead to sin doesn't mean he never sins, it just means he don't go
> looking to sin. You can't just take one Scripture and ignore ALL
> others on this subject. You have to go by all the Scriptures.
> So if one Scripture says "Every son of God is dead to sin, and another
> one says that "all men sin", you have to take BOTH into account.
It can't be both. You can't be a whore and a non-whore.
> And I
> have shown you many Scriptures saying that all people sin. Have I not?
> Do you want me to list them again?
You have shown me nothing but your own limited convenient interpretation
of the scriptures which you think justifies you in your sin.
It is pathetic and repulsive.
>> I am sorry that doesn't fit into your sinner religion.
>
> True, your beliefs do not. But the Holy Bible does.
>
>>
>>
>>>> You don't need a God when you can run your own show, Sinner James.
>>>
>>
>>> As usual you got it wrong again. Since I go solely by the Bible,
>>
>> Solely by the bible, a sinner going solely by the bible? :-). So where
>> does it say to sin?
>
> I guess you don't understand the Bible. The Bible says NOT to sin.
It does not say that.
It says you can do nothing about your sin but go to the One who can do
something about it.
And there you are thinking your righteousness in trying to keep the
bible will save you. You are deluded and evil.
Sinners don't go by the bible, they go by their sin.
"So, no, you can't use Paul to try and justify yourself for remaining a
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