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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com
On 20/01/2024 7:05 am, James wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 08:42:00 +1100, Michael Christ
> wrote:
>
>> On 19/01/2024 5:21 am, James wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:22:19 +1100, Michael Christ
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/01/2024 7:20 am, James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 15:31:16 +1100, Michael Christ
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/01/2024 12:18 pm, James wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 08:24:56 +1100, Michael Christ
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2024 5:40 am, James wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 10:34:46 +1100, Michael Christ
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/01/2024 12:30 am, James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:50:00 -0800, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2023, James wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 18:39:59 -0800, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2023, James wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Dec 2023 01:21:57 GMT, servant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Friend james how does the jw vatican commemorate/celebrate
Christ' birth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way of the HS and Mary,ie. the Word becoming flesh to dwell
among us?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We follow the examples of Jesus' apostles and Paul in the
Bible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good; it is the same apostles who make a very big deal
about His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming. Btw; observing holidays/feasts is as common as dirt
in the NT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To answer on friend james' behalf what he ignored; the jw
vatican unlike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the apostles act as though His birth was a mere bit of filler
material in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NT deserving no observation/commemeration..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Christmas celebrations, JW's follow all the NT where all
of Jesus'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followers gave us their examples on celebrating his birth. THEY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DIDN'T.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zero, null, nothing, 0, nought, nil, zilch, nowt, none, nix,
nada,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The archangels and the heavenly hosts did, as well as the
shepherds, family,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To my knowledge, the shepherds were not Jesus' followers yet.
They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently didn't even know about the birth until an angel
announced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They were, like many Jews, expecting the Messiah that was
prophesied, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> they were looking forward to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's true. Jesus set a lot of examples for us to follow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Lord Jesus did not set a lot of examples for people to follow
and
>>>>>>>>>> then leave it to you to play God. That is false religion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actually, your comment is a false comment. Jesus did set many good
>>>>>>>>> examples for us to use:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (1 Peter 2:21) In fact, to this course you were called, because even
>>>>>>>>> Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow his steps
>>>>>>>>> closely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also
suffered
>>>>>>>> for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That means follow Him, not your own will through the bible in your
>>>>>>>> constantly sinning, James.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, you are misinterpreting again like the Scribes and
>>>>>>> Pharisees. If you were to follow Jesus example perfectly, you would be
>>>>>>> able to heal sick people and even raise the dead. You can't do that,
>>>>>>> can you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter meant to DO WHAT YOU CAN using your own will, to follow Jesus'
>>>>>>> steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Revised Standard
>>>>>>>>> John 13:15 For I have given you an example, that you also should do
>>>>>>>>> as I have done to you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And who do you serve in your constantly sinning?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you don't constantly sin? If so, you would be the 4th person on
>>>>>>> earth who was perfect and never sin. Are you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't hide behind accusing your neighbour, Buddy. "And who do you
>>>>>> serve in your constantly sinning?"
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are the 4th perfect person ever to step on this planet,
>>>>> congratulations. (and pigs can fly)
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> Every son of God is dead to sin (crucified) and alive in Christ Jesus
>>>> (the few).
>>>>
>>>> They are saved, out of this world, and safe in heavenly places in Christ
>>
>> James trying to bring things down to his own bible laws, wrote:
>>> Jesus said NOBODY IS SAVED until the end. This is a Bible truism that
>>> most of Christendom seems to miss:
>>>
>>> -- New King James
>>> Matthew 24:13 "But he who endures to the end shall be saved."
>>
>> There you are in your sin striving to make yourself right yet again.
>
> Since you apparently don't go by the Scriptures like Mt 24:13, what do
> you go by?
>>
>> Give it up. The Lord Jesus is speaking directly and commissioning His
>> personally chosen disciples.
>>
>> It must be difficult for you not knowing whether you are saved or not.
>> Oh well, you just have to have it the Sinner James religion way!
>
> Here it is again. (if you don't believe Jesus, who do you believe?)
I don't believe you, my verse plucking genius.
Why don't you believe me, you must believe the bible is book of fiction?
:-). I've just done a Sinner James! :-).
The Lord Jesus is speaking to His personal disciples.
That's not you.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came
unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and
what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
The gospel was preached by them to the end of the world...
Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went
into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
The Lord Jesus was commissioning His personal disciples. The were all to
face grisly deaths.
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