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   From: robert@no.way   
      
   On Jan 27, 2024, James wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 22:57:57 -0800, No One  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Jan 19, 2024, James wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > >   
   > > > Burned alive?   
   > > >   
   > > > It happened during the Middle Ages by the Roman Catholic Church if a   
   > > > person was accused of being a heretic.   
   > > >   
   > > > It also happens in plane crashes when the fuel in the wings gets   
   > > > ignighted. And also in automobile wrecks and house fires etc.   
   > > >   
   > > > It is a terrible way to die. Yet most of Christendom accuses God of   
   > > > doing the same. And they make God's way even worse. At least in the   
   > > > above examples, the victims eventually die and are no longer in agony.   
   > > > But in God's example, they say He burns them alive for all eternity!   
   > > >   
   > > > Even Hitler was better than what Christendom accuses God of. Hitler   
   > > > gassed them to death first, then burned the DEAD bodies. That makes   
   > > > Hitler a tiny bit more moral than they make God!   
   > > >   
   > > > But don't fret. Their teachings are teachings from the demons. Satan   
   > > > loves to paint a picture of a morally corrupt and evil God. And Satan   
   > > > gets his human servants to carry out his decadent ways, esp most of   
   > > > Christendom who are dupes in his plans.   
   > > >   
   > > > So if God doesn't burn unrepentant wicked persons, how does He   
   > > > administer justice to them? He puts them in the same condition they   
   > > > were in before they were born: non existence. That is the 'humane' way   
   > > > to do it. Ps 5:6a,   
   > > >   
   > > > "You will destroy those who speak lies."   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice "destroy", not torture forever. Mt 10:28,   
   > > >   
   > > > "And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill   
   > > > the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in   
   > > > Ge·hen´na."   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice not 'torture' forever in Gehenna, but DESTROY them.   
   > > >   
   > > > Even the demons will eventually get the same fate as wicked humans. Mr   
   > > > 1:24b,   
   > > >   
   > > > "Did you come to destroy us?" Ps 9:5,   
   > > >   
   > > > "You have rebuked nations and destroyed the wicked,   
   > > > Blotting out their name forever and ever."   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice, if the wicked are burning alive in a hellfire place, they are   
   > > > still alive and their name is still active forever. Ps 37:38a,   
   > > >   
   > > > "But all the transgressors will be destroyed;" Luke 13:3,   
   > > >   
   > > > "No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise be   
   > > > destroyed." And this popular Scripture: John 3:16,   
   > > >   
   > > > "For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son,   
   > > > so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but   
   > > > have everlasting life."   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice Jesus didn't say 'tortured forever', but DESTROYED. John   
   > > > 10:27,28,   
   > > >   
   > > > "27My sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.   
   > > > 28I give them everlasting life, and they will by no means ever be   
   > > > destroyed, and no one will snatch them out of my hand." Acts 3:23,   
   > > >   
   > > > "Indeed, anyone who does not listen to that Prophet will be completely   
   > > > destroyed from among the people" 2 Pet 2:9,10,   
   > > >   
   > > > "So, then, Jehovah knows how to rescue people of godly devotion out of   
   > > > trial, but to reserve unrighteous people to be destroyed on the day of   
   > > > judgment, 10especially those who seek to defile the flesh of others   
   > > > and who despise authority."   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice unrighteous people get DESTROYED, not live and burn forever.   
   > > >   
   > > > So there we have it. According to the Bible, the unrepentant   
   > > > unrighteous will cease to exist forever, not burn forever.   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, there are Scriptures that speak of burning people, such as the   
   > > > lake of fire in Revelation, which many in Christendom call "hellfire".   
   > > > But ALL of those Scriptures are only symbolic. They all represent   
   > > > everlasting destruction.   
   > > >   
   > > > For example, see for yourself that they are symbolic when you notice   
   > > > what is tossed into the lake of fire. See if you can find it. Rev   
   > > > 20:14.   
   > > >   
   > > > The Jews knew that if you want to destroy something you could break it   
   > > > into pieces. But when you burn it up, it is gone forever. So Jesus and   
   > > > the apostles used fire to represent complete, everlasting destruction.   
   > > > Sincerely James,   
   > > > 1/19/2024   
   > >   
   > > Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this   
   > > prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of   
   > > the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.   
   >   
   > Yes, translators should heed those words.   
      
   You as well. For it speaks of everlasting fire, and that everyone whose name   
   is not in the book of life will be tossed into the Lake of Fire and brimstone   
   immediately after the judgment, and some will be tossed in at the end of the   
   GT. It also speaks to the 144,000 as all being Jewish young men. 12,000 from   
   each tribe and all are virgin young men. And your group has changed and   
   modified every one of those items, and that is not the least of the errors of   
   your false doctrines.   
      
   You personally will be held accountable for those false doctrines that you   
   try and teach others with, thus dragging down those who have been deceived by   
   your false teachings.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > This is the fate of those who speak and teach as you do.   
   >   
   > On the contrary, since JW's go ONLY by the Bible, then their words can   
   > be life saving, when they teach people this:   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > 1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he   
   > that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.   
      
   Just because you speak of a truth once in a while does not erase the multiple   
   lies you teach, as noted above.   
   >   
   >   
   > > You cannot excuse it   
   > > away by saying it is symbolic just because you or your peers are not   
   willing   
   > > to believe in the Son of God, nor His Father.   
   >   
   > JW's give the evidence to back up their Bible doctrines. Do you?   
      
   I have repeated them to you from scriptures more times than you can count.   
   Your lies and false and deceiving doctrines are straight out of hell, and   
   that should make your heart shudder violently.   
   >   
   >   
   > "not willing to believe in the Son of God, nor His Father."? You've   
   > got to be kidding me. Just read any of our literature, or go to our   
   > web page to see how wrong you are.   
      
   You have no faith in the son of God, nor his Father. You consider yourself as   
   much a God as Jesus is. To believe that he exists is not the same as   
   believing in him and trusting him unto death. You deny that Jesus is a full   
   part of the Godhead.   
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