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|    Re: 5th request: A jw vatican ritual usi    |
|    23 Mar 24 20:45:24    |
      XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion, alt.religion.christian.biblestudy       XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.christnet.christianlife       From: truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org              throwing rice dates way back to china, budist, several pagan religions.       The claim they are feeding the devils helpers when they throw it. The       jews only claim it to be fertility fruitful an mulitply. Not prosperity.        This is good in the eyes of God, but they could claim without the rice       anyway. Probably just a pagan jew claiing it. In any event, it       professes a differ faith of superstition, of which is not taught by the       true precepts of God or the Ten Commandments. And is taught against by       the true catholic faith, as it is a sin, to profess superstition. I       agree with servant. Its not Christian. However, the first temple taken       as a pagan temple Diana Artemis and the way marriage for those pagans       were, called Vestal Virgin, which means, you marry 50 men, not one, and       sleep with all of them. Its of evil, and is of Sodom an Garmoah. Type       witchcraft. There is a crutch that stands from long ago, God never       said only one. That is when Jesus came. That one particular law of the       old Jews that did not exist, Jesus changed, by the wedding feast of the       water turned into wine.              On 3/23/2024 8:18 PM, teslaStinker wrote:       > Servant, this nut could care less about the seven brothers or the seven       > sacraments. He is an antichrist. The second book of Machabees, shows us       > this story of the 7. That were all persecuted and killed the same way at       > the end, being fried in a fry pan.       >       > And for certain, he does not acknowledge the pains that the true church       > being persecuted of, went thru, The Saints, being punished for no good       > reasons. Yes the jews. And its fact, that they foretold the coming of       > Jesus, these same people, in how they died, and also, what he was going       > to do upon coming, and addressed him Jesus, as the King.       >       > So its not just the book of Daniel, that foretold of the coming of       > Christ. Yet, the protestants seperate the books, and shuv the second       > book of Maccabees where the sun does no shine. Just as they have no idea       > of Moses and the book of Canticles, or the prophecys of the coming of       > Christ by more than just one prophet. As yes there were quite a few that       > told us... This is the second book of Mac. 7 vs 9       > 9 And when he was at the last gasp, he said thus: Thou indeed, O most       > wicked man, destroyest us out of this present life: but the King of the       > world will raise us up, who die for his laws, in the resurrection of       > eternal life.       >       > Just as they did, I will do the same, and even if it means, calling       > these who changed the books, evil heretics, because they never speak the       > truth about God, and His Saints or His Prophets. And how many foretold       > the coming of Him, in the Old testament books.       >       > And how, they are to do, in order to get to heaven raised again from the       > dead.       >       > 10 After him the third was made a mocking stock, and when he was       > required, he quickly put forth his tongue, and courageously stretched       > out his hands:       >       > 11 And said with confidence: These       >       > 1 have from heaven, but for the laws of God I now despise them: because       > I hope to receive them again from him.       >       > So you see, they trashed the laws, and the next one that died prayed to       > God to get the laws again, and believe me, that is why in the true       > Bible, it declares the true tabernacle, true religion, etc, because       > there are others, that do not as God said to do to obtain the truth of       > rising again from the dead. James of course, is just one of those dummys       > that breaks the catholic laws an precepts. Same as these same kings and       > the king james version, are the ones that did the persecutions. And       > still, they do not pay attention to what the truth of the whole thing       > is, for second book of machabees, was just before the coming of Christ,       > according to the cronaolgy, the year, 3820 to about 3898. And, 5757 is a       > hebrew calendar you would have to use, and is the year, 1998 in case       > your wondering, where and when is that time really. That puts it about       > 100 years before Christ was born. So do never think God's seven people       > that were brutally murdered for God, never did tell about the coming of       > Jesus, they did. Of course when Daniel foretold it, it was way back       > further before about 700 year before. and Isaiah, I have not it at the       > top of my brain to mention here, but the true Chronology sure helps       > alot, and since the catholic church is that old, she holds the most       > precious information of the holy. Why is there seven sacraments? Why did       > Jesus say listen to Moses? Why does James, buck the true catholic       > church? I think you know why. It a little pain in the ass liar, that       > kills the church from talking. It has always been this way, They even       > did it to St Peter after they did it to Jesus. And now, James does it too.       >       > On 3/15/2024 12:17 PM, servant wrote:       >>>> These are the direct from pagan practices the jw wedding ritual uses.       >>>>       >>>> 1. bride maids fdressed alike.       >>>>       >>>> 2 The brides dress color and use of a vail.       >>>>       >>>> 3. Use of and exchange of rings; and the finger upon which it is worn.       >>>>       >>>> 4. the brides bouquet of flowers.       >>>>       >>>> 5 having and cutting a cake and passing it around.       >>       >> Friend james offers this jw vatican excuse for using pagan originated       >> practices:       >>       >>> Thus, the KEY to whether a situation with a suspected pagan source is ok       >>> to do, is if that situation is done with FALSE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES.       >>> Servant needs to remember this, since he has brought it up several times       >>> before.       >>>       >>> So since there is no false religious practices being done at a JW       >>> weddings, they can do pretty much what they want.       >>       >> Hmm; let's test that clam of friend james in the last sentence as to the       >> excuse and weddings.       >>       >> 1. jw wedding pagan originated/pracices are vnot said to apply; friend       >> james does not show us the explicit linkage from jw vatican sources to       >> that       >> end.       >>       >> 2. in direct contridiction for using the excuse for the pagan wedding       >> items;the jw vatican has explicity forbidden tossing confetti/rice at       >> wedings. because it is pagan in origin/practice. Cllearly nothing       >> makes it       >> any different then all the other items above.       >>       >> As tested; the jw vatican excuse is not included for jw pagan weding       >> practices.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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