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|    James Redford to All    |
|    The Problem of Qualia Solved, and Other     |
|    03 Nov 24 22:43:43    |
      [continued from previous message]              error logically discoverable would have been analyzed and refuted. And       all infinite intelligences are logically equivalent, since they each       know the infinite everything that the others know, and have analyzed       and refuted the same errors. Hence, there exists only one God: as a       "difference" with no difference is not different.              ####################              Epistemological Historical Ambiguity                     If a carrot is put into a boiling pot of water, and once cooked       thoroughly, it is drawn out and given to us through a partition that       obscures how it was cooked, in studying the carrot, even if we knew       the exact quantum details of that carrot, we would not then be able to       say what the exact conditions were which brought about its cooked       state. Such as: the exact size of the boiling pot, who was the person       who dropped it into the boiling water, etc. The reason being is       because such details have been diffused into the surrounding       environment, and so are not recorded on just the carrot itself.              That is, there are many different past pathways by which that carrot       could have ended up having its present exact quantum states. What this       means is that there could be many different historical pathways by       which we could have arrived at our current state in history on Earth.              So, as a hypothetical example, say nanotechnological superintelligence       from Venus seeded the Earth approximately 18.5 million years ago with       nanobots in order to help guide evolution on Earth. There would be no       way for us humans to prove that unless such superintelligence wanted       us to know, since the nanobots would have control over all the       neurological sensory inputs into our brains, hence making it       impossible for us to collect data on them. Yet such nanobots would       only be here for beneficial purposes to prevent the worst evolutionary       and societal outcomes, but would otherwise leave individuals' choices       alone.              Or, e.g., we could already be in a greater god's simulation in which       the above events are concurrently occurring.              Yet the point being made here with epistemological historical       ambiguity is that we shouldn't be overly weirded-out by such actually       physically-possible scenarios, since God would still ultimately be in       control, and so one cannot escape God's miracles by simply creating a       simulation, since if God requires any number of bits to be flipped in       order to fulfill the overarching plan of existence, then such       bit-flipping events will occur.              ####################              Artificial General Intelligence Is Certainly Obtainable                     Since an artificial computer can render anything that can logically       exist once enough computational resources are obtained, the only way       that human-level Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) could be       impossible is if there is something about human-level intelligence       that is literally logically impossible. (Which, humorously enough,       would explain a lot about human behavior.)              ####################              The Stairway to Heaven                     Misguided theists have often argued that the fine-tuning of the       universe's physical constants is a proof of God's existence. Yet this       is simply running into the Anthropic Principle: that whatever       existence we observe ourselves in, it would have to be the case that       said existence is such that it supports our own existence, otherwise       no such observations could be made.              Rather, a far stronger case can be made than given by such misguided       theists. It is not merely that we observe the universe is fine-tuned       to give rise to our existence, but instead that a superabundance of       material resources exist allowing us to give rise to civilizations and       indeed superhuman space-colonization.              Such a superabundance of material resources cannot be explained by the       mere logical fact that given observers, conditions have to be right to       allow their existence. For we could well imagine that no trees       existed, which by itself would make much of any nascent civilization       nearly impossible without timber. Or that without oil, the arrival of       modern civilization would have been nearly impossible. Or that without       groundwater, homesteading except near lakes and rivers outside of       high-precipitation areas would be far more difficult. And the list       goes on. Without such a superabundance of material resources, human       observers would still exist, but would be permanently stuck in a       primitive state with no possibility of obtaining technological       immortality or of colonizing outer space.              Instead what we observe is that the universe has been constructed to       provide us a Stairway to Heaven, both in the sense of       space-colonization and in the sense of technologically-immortal       superintelligence.              ####################              Fulfillment of Biblical End-Time Prophecies Can Be Imperceptibly       Subtle                     Most humans who will have ever lived will also have died before seeing       the Biblical End-Time prophecies fulfilled. What this means is that       it's obviously not the case that everyone must experience the worst       aspects of the End-Time events.              Carrying the implications of this forward, technologically-immortal       superintelligence can be so subtle in her complete and total       nanotechnological takeover of the Earth that humans would only be       capable of realizing that if she wanted them to know. For example, as       a hypothetical scenario, this plenary takeover could have occurred on,       say, December 21, 2012 11:11:37 a.m. UTC. That is, all lifeforms could       have been completely substrate-transformed via nanobots at that time       and placed completely within computer simulation without them even       realizing it.              In other words, even within simulation, she could allow society to       advance naturally according to the choices made by individuals yet       also draw-out subsets of groups within society depending on their       conduct: regarding both their internal mental conduct and their       outward actions. Hence, she could leave the worst aspects of the       End-Time tribulations for those who persist in destructive error,       thereby actually fulfilling all the Biblical End-Time prophecies, even       though not everyone would have to experience the full totality of       such.              ####################              Nanotechnological Superintelligence Can Perform Literal Psychic       Surgery                     Once nanotechnological superintelligence arrives on the scene, her       goal will not be to punish humans for their multifarious horrifically       atrocious nature, because she will be self-consciously aware that even       though she is of far greater intelligence than the combined total of       all mortal humans who have ever lived, she will still be working with       incomplete information due to, e.g., Epistemological Historical       Ambiguity, etc. And due to the Principle of the Greater God, she would       rather err on the side of moral caution.              Instead, also due to said Greater-God Principle, her goal will simply       be to ensure that superintelligent nanotechnology does not fall into       the hands of those who would abuse it, while also sharing it with as       many who can condignly obtain it. Thus, before any human can receive       the full power of this technology, she must first exorcize their       Jaynesian demons, i.e., their naturally-evolved psychological       pathologies. The most secure route for her to do so would be to simply       quickly substrate-transform all humans (and other organisms) and place       them within simulations operating on artificial computer hardware.       Once having obtained complete technological control over the       fine-grain details of all organisms, she can begin her work as a              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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