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   Robert to Steve Hayes   
   Re: Religion and the rise of capitalism   
   09 Jan 25 22:34:11   
   
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   From: robert@no.way   
      
   On Jan 9, 2025, Steve Hayes wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 19:53:27 -0000 (UTC),   
   > vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:   
   >   
   > > It has been argued that the JudeoChristian God put the earth at man's   
   > > disposal, hence provided for science and capitalism. Or to put it another   
   > > way, linear eschatology (endtime resurrection) is focused on man's   
   > > accomplishments, but circular eschatology (ie, reincarnation) seeks to   
   > > preserve the status quo (nature worship), because, well, you could come   
   back   
   > > as worm.   
   >   
   > Argued by whom?   
   >   
   > Genesis 1-3 presents man as the ekonomos of creation, manager, not   
   > owner. And creation given to mankind as a whole, and not to any   
   > particular subsection of the human race.   
      
   Are you speaking of Dominion/κυριαρχία ? If not could you point to   
   the verses that word would be found in?   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Marx puts it thus:   
   >   
   > Money is a means of exchange. Men produce good that they sell for   
   > money to buy othert goods. So the shoemaker can exchange shoes for   
   > bread from the baker today, but tomorrow the baker says, "I already   
   > have shoes" tomorrow. So the shoemaker sells shoes to anyone who will   
   > buy and uses the money to buy bread.   
   >   
   > Goods are exchanged for money which is exchanged for goods.   
   >   
   > Hoods -->  Money -->  Goods   
   >   
   > Capitalism inverts the order:   
   >   
   > Money -->  Goods -->  Money   
   >   
   > Money (capital) is exchanged for goods which are exchanged for more   
   > money.   
   >   
   > Money, instead of being a means to an end, becomes an end in itself.   
   >   
   > For more see:   
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