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   From: robert@no.way   
      
   On Jan 10, 2025, Steve Hayes wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:49:58 -0800, Robert  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Jan 10, 2025, Steve Hayes wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 22:34:11 -0800, Robert  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Jan 9, 2025, Steve Hayes wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 19:53:27 -0000 (UTC),   
   > > > > > vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > It has been argued that the JudeoChristian God put the earth at   
   man's   
   > > > > > > disposal, hence provided for science and capitalism. Or to put it   
   > > > > > > another   
   > > > > > > way, linear eschatology (endtime resurrection) is focused on man's   
   > > > > > > accomplishments, but circular eschatology (ie, reincarnation)   
   seeks to   
   > > > > > > preserve the status quo (nature worship), because, well, you could   
   come   
   > > > > > > back   
   > > > > > > as worm.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Argued by whom?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Genesis 1-3 presents man as the ekonomos of creation, manager, not   
   > > > > > owner. And creation given to mankind as a whole, and not to any   
   > > > > > particular subsection of the human race.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Are you speaking of Dominion/????????? ? If not could you point to   
   > > > > the verses that word would be found in?   
   > > >   
   > > > Genesis 1:26-29.   
   > >   
   > > I can find the word “oikonomos” In 1kings, etc. but not in Genesis.   
   > > In the verses you mentioned there is the word Dominion, meaning supremacy.   
   > >   
   > > I understand, based on what the other person you replied to that you might   
   > > be   
   > > speaking of a concept from your exchange with him, yet I am uncertain.   
   Hence   
   > > the question.   
   >   
   > You asked about the word "dominion", which is used in some Englisah   
   > translations. Other words with related meanings are rule, authority,   
   > principality, power.   
      
   Yes, I wasn’t but the other word you used was not found there, anywhere, as   
   far as I could see. And the Greek translation of the OT by the LXX Reads,...   
      
   Gen 1:26 (Brenton) And God said, Let us make man according to our image and   
   likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the   
   flying creatures of heaven, and over the cattle and all the earth, and over   
   all the reptiles that creep on the earth.   
      
   And so I looked up the word in koine Greek and it translates As Supremacy.   
   Which is what Elohim declared over him as whom man was to be, before the fall   
   of Adam. And Yeshua reclaimed as the second ‘Adam’. And then authorized   
   all those who believe upon Him and are baptized in the spirit to be.   
      
   “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over   
   all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.   
   Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you;   
   but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.” (Luk   
   10:19-20)   
      
   And also taught elsewhere in the NT.   
      
   What I have found is that this is taught very little around the world, so   
   that few are knowledgeable of who they really are in Christ Jesus. So they   
   are weak, when they should be strong, like those that are meek, yet humble.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)