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   Steve Hayes to phamp@mindspring.com   
   Re: and again with the calendar wa Re: H   
   20 Jan 25 09:21:59   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian, alt.   
   hristian.religion   
   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 12:18:50 -0800, pyotr filipivich   
    wrote:   
      
   >Dr.Who  on Sat, 11 Jan 2025 07:59:27 -0800 typed in   
   >alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox  the following:   
   >>   
   >>Thank you for that link. It helped clarify some of the issues of time. The   
   >>differences between the Times as decreed by the Son of God, and the time as   
   >>setup up by those without God. The Natural Order of time, meaning the   
   >>Lunar/Solar calendar makes a whole lot of sense, far more than the Julian and   
   >>Gregorian calendars ever did.   
   >   
   >	If you don't mind your seasons bouncing around on the calendar.   
   >E.G., Passover is always 14 Nissan, but it is in early or late spring?   
   >   
   >	You might want to examine the history of the Julian reforms.  It   
   >seems that the Roman Republic did have a Lunar/Solar calendar,it was   
   >just that the decision when to add a month to keep the calendar and   
   >seasons somewhat in sync was made by the priests.  (Just as it was   
   >done in Judea).   
   >	The problem was that there was no fixed schedule, and if the   
   >priests liked the consul, they would declare a leap year and add a   
   >month (thereby extending his term in office.)  If they did not like   
   >him, they would wait till after his term expired and then add the   
   >month.  Or not.   
   >	The Julian reforms meant that the seasons and the calendar stayed   
   >in sync for the most part.  But by the time of Gregory, the calendar   
   >and the seasons were out of sync by some ten days. i.e., The Spring   
   >Equinox was occurring March 11 instead of March 21, the date on the   
   >Calendar.   
   >	The Reformed Julian Calendar, revised the computation of the leap   
   >years, and brought the Spring Equinox (observed) closer to the Date on   
   >the calendar.   
   >   
   >	But if you want to keep consulting the Jews for the date of   
   >Passover in order to know when Resurrection day is, go right ahead.   
      
   Christians decided quite early on that they didn't need to keep   
   consulting the Jews, and made their own calculations.   
      
   Since the Gregorian reform of 1582 Christians have observed the   
   Nativity and Pascha at different times, but I doubt if there are many   
   Quartodecimans left.   
      
      
   --   
   Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa   
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   Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com   
      
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